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ED, This is just one building of a 20 building apartment complex. People are moving in Friday so I'm short on time. I'll know today if other bildings are in same condition.

I don't see what the problem is John! There looks like there is plenty of room on the ceiling for a patch panel. Or, after you terminate the phone wires, just put a 7' rack directly in front of the 66-blocks. The data guys around here do it all of the time. Just make sure you give yourself at least 6 inches between the rack and the 66-blocks for AMC's.

One other thought, you could just tywrap the patch panel to the fiber. But, please don't try to secure it with screws thru the fiber.

-Larry

Is it possible to pull the cables out of the room, mount 110 blocks in the ceiling outside the room, then punch down new cables on top of the 110 clips to extend the wiring to where it needs to get to ???

Larry, Don't laugh at me too much. This is in Gainsville and I almost gave them your phone number. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Whose laughing? I've worked with those guys before.

John,

I was there all day yesterday. We even spoke with the owner to see if we could rearrange the closet and make everything reach without having to splice on more cable. I thought if we could exchange the location of the patch panel with the fiber enclosure, and move the bottom 2 66-blocks up to the top on the sheetrock, everything would work. But to our misfortune, the owners answer was NO...NO...NO

I even brought my brand new Benford 6000 Cable Strecher. (No Luck!!! Thanks for the idea Twisted Pair!! :rofl: )

So after 400 Scotch Locks and about 150 beenies, and still there at 8:30PM, I found myself with still 28 cables to go. At 8 to 10 muinets per cable, I just couldn't stay any longer. However, my Ocala tech is there finishing it up this morning, since he had 300 more scotch locks on his van. (By the way JW, it does looks like crap. Once done, we are going to try to push the splices up through the ceiling where they will not be visable.)

I also found out some more information about this abortion! :idea: It's hard to see in John's picture, but there are bundeles there taped together with different colored tape. These separate each of the units cables. (Contractor did not use a sharpie or lables) So in all actuallity, this is their tail. They were not cut, they were pulled short from the very beginning.

Also, can anyone tell me if there is a standard for the color of cables used for a particular service. For example: This projects has White and Blue Cat-5e. My experience would tell me that the Blue is for Data, and the White is for Voice. However, after removing a few wall plates I discovered that they did exactly the oposite.

Kirk

There is not standard as far as color of the jacket.

You're using Scotch Locks and beenies for the network cables as well?

YES

All I can say is, we tried to accomidate the cliet to the best of our efforts regaurdless of the outcome, and now they are stuck with the future and stability of this system.

Kirk

Are you insane CCSGINC? You're a cabling contractor. Yes that install was botched by the hack that did the original install by making those cables that short. If you had extended those data wires using a more approved method (such as those AT&T blocks that Ed mentioned), it would not have driven the costs up that much, and still test fairly good. By doing the way you did, everyone of those brand new drops is pretty much garbage now.

Two wrongs don't make a right!

TP, remember he has already tried to get the customer to do it right for what he has to work with. You can either do the man's work and take his money or you can walk away.

A decision each of us must make.

KLD