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i need help from anyone who has or can get me bell system practices on wiring, splicing, outside plant buried and aerial, building terminals feeder and distribution, cable maintenance etc. im particularly interested in the method of repairing sheath damage with a tape job. there was a particular order on which all the tapes were applied and i seem to be forgetting since its been a long time. thanks!!!

I'm pretty certain splicing and cable maintenance were in the 6xx series, but have no idea where you'd find them.

I've got a GTE Practice: "Cable Splicing Handbook" CHB-150.

It's probably 500 to 1,000 pages long and consists of many GTEPs.

We never left a damaged cable covered with just tape.

Repair of sheath damage was covered in GTEP 633-401-200 using a Raychem Thermofit Wraparound Repair Sleeve Tip (WRST). This was installed with a torch or a heat (ray) gun.

Temporary Closing of Splice Openings (633-400-300) Called for Muslin first, then Scotchfil, then CR (vulcanized rubber) tape. The whole business is finished off with 1/8" Rubber cord.

Is that what you're looking for?

Sam

I think what he's wanting is the sheath repair. We did it two ways. One was with an auxiliary lead sleeve using rubber tape, aluminum tape, DR (rubber) tape and vinyl tape to close the ends. If it were minor damage than just the tapes. C-cement was also used to give it an air tight seal.

Lead, huh Bill.

You're dating yourself again.

It did make a nice tight splice though. Much nicer then plastic.

One of the classes I teach for the IBEW was next to the classroom where they taught High Voltage Splicing, It was a very intensive, very long class. Essentially you had to complete all of the "projects" (components) of the class to graduate.

Lead is still used extensively (exclusively?) in HV splicing and until this past year one of the projects was - A Lead Telephone Splice.

I asked the instructor why they took it out of the program and he said they had a terrible problem getting the cable and were not getting any calls for doing it. (All the requests were going directly to the Telephone Division [I mean who would you want doing your Telephone Splices - a Telephone Man or an Electrician?]).

Sam

hey silversam would it be possible for you to scan those practices pertaining to outside plant, wiring, splicing etc and email them to me. they may not be bsp's but i reckon they are close. youre right on bill and appreciate that. there was also a standard for repairing aerial and buried pic cable sheath damage as well, now my new headache has been finding suppliers for the materials needed. i have alot of CR boot, B sealing and friction tapes. found a supplier for the 2 or 4 inch aluminum but the muslin is impossible to find. btw, muslin was great for keeping away flying bugs by pinching the middle of the roll, pulling it up into a cone, lighting it on fire, blowing it out and just letting it smolder and smoke. it worked wonders!!! now im like what was i thinking!!!

Welcome to the board Dying Breed!
We welcome your knowledge and enthusiasm.
That's precisely what sets us apart from other boards.... the sharing of experience and professional knowledge I mean.

However, we simply do not offer manuals or violate copyright protected material(s) agreements under any circumstances.
But that doesn't mean you can't click on the "Manuals" tab at the top of the page and purchase the information you desire via legal means.

Actually, Mark, this should be in the outside plant department.

Seeing as it isn't, well, I'll chime in. I have no problem ordering muslin or other material from Graybar. I probably have most of a pack in the shop. How about cable salt? Cans of it.

Wife beaters, carding brushes, drifts, you name it. Even still got the butt box.

Welcome aboard.

i would agree on the outside plant category. you know i never thought to check graybar, my present employer has an account with them. im going to google around tomorrow. my wife convinced me to help her down a bottle of some red wine and let me tell you that stuff isnt no joke, im stickin to coors.

btw, i found hundreds of bsp's online at a museum archival site so i dont believe they are proprietary anymore. there are tons of sites out there with this stuff just nt the ones i need so if you know one that does or have some t=thing along those lines please let me know. around here they went from bsp (bell system practice) to bap ( bell atlantic paractice to who knows what when we merged with gte i never heard after that or if they even still exist. judging by the techs i see out and around and the way verizon is headed i seriously doubt they have them anymore, i talk with splicers now and they are told to " black bag " all bad splices, rotting and broken aerial terminals etc. which means a roll of black plastic and vinyl tape. make way that fios train is steaming thru!!!