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Sorry, I took "Lines" as xxx-xxxx, yyy-yyyy, NOT home runs from the jacks. Home runs, YES, Lines NO.

Unfortunately, many of them were so stupid they were kicked out of there and are out in the field.

Those pictures are TAKEN by forum members, hopefully not work DONE by members.

Fletcher has a good point and maybe the only exception to "don't use CAT5 or 110 for voice". Like it or not, if you do hotels you're going to break your own rule and use CAT5e and CAT5e compliant blocks for all the cabling. Their standards are set by Corporate Brand IT wonks, some of whom are now even requiring CAT6 for new construction. (Any guesses why? Yep, the Holy Grail of VoIP)

I still do my equipment cutdown on 66 blocks so I have a test point in the circuit but from there on it has to be 110 or CAT5e 66 blocks with the twist right up to the stitches.

Hal, concrete shoes, right?

I have installed a bunch of predictive dialers..each agent has a voice connection and a pc. The IP of the pc has to match the voice number and the data number and the service observing number...Under those conditions you terminate either end out of order and you are really screwed. You will end up with a voice call not matching with the screen info and that really ticks off a telemarketing phone room manager. In other words we always label first and make sure cube one is voice 01 and data 01 and service observing position 01 and the pc's ip ends in .xx1 as well. Its our job to make it as easy for the Room Supervisor as possible.

Any guesses why? Yep, the Holy Grail of VoIP

Ya know, it's funny but if you look at VoIP systems, a separate VLAN like what you would have in a hotel would only have to be CAT3. The Avaya IPO phones will work fine with CAT3, it's only when you put voice on the data network will CAT5 or higher be required, and that's because of the data.

-Hal

Okay, all the jacks are in and labeled anally in order. They even go in clock-wise direction around the office so you can count out what jack is in what office without even looking. Two weeks later, you add 4 cables in 3 different locations. So, do we just throw our arms up in disgust because the customer doesn't understand that what they want will throw our number scheme out the window? Do we charge the customer extra to re-label all of the jacks? I guess we should have left big 'holes' in the numbering plan to be able to make sure we never have a different voice cable number than a data cable in the same jack plate under any circumstance. I guess I'm only going to wire jobs that have only equal amounts of voice and data wire so all will be even.

Sorry for the rant, I think we can get 3 pages on this subject. After all, numbering labels is one of my biggest worries these days. :bang:

I always wrote up a floorplan first. All dual jacks (V&D) were numbered first in order. Then came the oddballs - fax machines, printers, modems etc. After the original install, stuff just went in with whatever numbers were available.

Some places add stuff daily, some never. I do the best job I can as defined by the SOW or, lacking one, as I see fit. After the install, it just goes as it goes - neat, clean, labeled - and out of sequence.

Sam