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Do whatever it takes to protect the cable from DRYWALLERS! It only takes one drywall screw to "screw" with your perfect installation, and by that time everything in closed up tight! 
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One thing I did was put a metal strip on the stud or plate where the 'rockers' might run a screw!(Which is pretty much everywhere!) And then there are the IDIOTS that use a router with a 1 inch long bit to route out the box behind 3/8 sheetrock. 
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I know in one home construction show, there was a building law that required metal plates in front of plumbing pipes. That will prevent a screw or nail from piercing the pipe.
But for general home construction, does the wire enter in from the top plate and go down say from the attic? that would make alot of sense.
I was thinking of drilling horizontal holes across the ceiling joist leading from the demark to the walls top plate, then push plastic conduit down or up, into that hold to the wall plate and pull the cable though it after that part is done. IS this how it is done? I can also just visit some home construction sites to see how its done.
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In my experience low voltage residential wiring is done with the same overall methods as the rest of the electrical.
In general you find a path that reduces the amount of ladder work and drilling to keep the installation time low. You need to avoid mechanicals and keep a good separation from line voltage cabling, a reasonably direct route, and satisfy code.
Generally I go from the mud ring up the side of the stud to the attic. Or down the stud and through the bottom plate to a lower floor. Staple along the side of a truss or floor joist to reach your central path. On the studs staple your cable near the mudring, run about a foot past the mudring and staple again a couple of inches from the end of the cable. When the wallboard is on and hole routed you can reach in and pull the cable out of the last staple and out of the wall to terminate. The cable will hopefully be in the center of the stud, far away from the drywaller's rotozip with this method.
I find a centralized path that most of the cables will head toward and when I get them that far I pull them all together through any holes necessary to reach the demarc. Don't drill any engineered lumber or trusses, find a way around.
99% of builders will want you to to be fast and cheap. Standard practice is to home run all phone cables from jacks (maybe 6 or so runs in an average house) directly to the demarc box. Leave a couple feet and let Telus deal with that end. Only in that other 1% of average houses will you get to do some more elaborate wiring involving a backboard or punchblock of any kind.
Coax for Shaw will be the same unless you have more than 4 runs, they want a different box and extra runs to an amplifier location if you exceed 4.
Anything above standard builder grade houses and you should claim a 4' x 4' chunk of wall in the mechanical room for low voltage wiring and home run there, terminating on BIX blocks with a run out to the demarc. Good luck with getting space for a backboard. :-P
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Mike, I wish you'd teach the sparkies in MY area! :dance:
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Charles,
If I cannot drill though the ceiling joist, then I cannot run the cables over them. That would only last so long before they are crushed by contractor foot traffic. If the cables are run along wall edges then, that may make sense?
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