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And there there are times an installer may have to make an end up. I am thinking of when the local telco puts in a cat 5 for their TV service. Customers would scream at the installers if they saw a dime sized hole being drilled in their hardwood floor / baseboards to accommodate the factory pressed plug end to connect to the set top box.
Yes a small wire sized hole could be used if a baseboard jack /patch cord was used but that rarely happens from what I have seen.
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And there there are times an installer may have to make an end up. I am thinking of when the local telco puts in a cat 5 for their TV service.
Customers would scream at the installers if they saw a dime sized hole being drilled in their hardwood floor / baseboards to accommodate the factory pressed plug end to connect to the set top box. NO NO NO NO NO NO ARGHHH. RUN THE WIRE THE RIGHT WAY USE THE RIGHT HARDWARE PUT IN A BOX OR A BISCUIT TERMINATE THE WIRE THE RIGHT WAY USE THE RIGHT METHOD USE A FEMALE 8P8C JACK USE A PATCHCORD PATCHCORDS ARE NEAT, CHEAP, AND RELIABLE MY GOODNESS, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO SAY THIS? When you wire a house or an office for electricity, do you leave the Romex hanging out of the wall, and put a plug on the end? (And by the way, it's not an RJ45.)
Arthur P. Bloom "30 years of faithful service...15 years on hold"
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Trouble is the young kids they are using to install things, they don't know any better.
When I changed from Cable to Telco TV the two kids reluctantly put a two port biscut (TV in, internet out) for the set top on the baseboard in the living room and one in the spare room for the internet connection.
They had already crimpted ends on as soon as the wires were fished up from the basement. I told them I was not going to sign off on the install if they left it like that.
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I have... plugs for stranded and solid cable As Skip points out, there are two types of plugs. If you are installing plugs to save money, you may also be buying plugs for stranded use and those will eventually fail when used on solid wire.
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I have two AMP and one GMP presser , plugs for stranded and solid cable and I still press plugs for Ethernet rarely and only as a last resort
I have a GMP that I mainly use to make up cables for the Partner. While I do have 8p/8c plugs since the old Merlin days I use them only as a last resort for Ethernet also.
And there there are times an installer may have to make an end up. I am thinking of when the local telco puts in a cat 5 for their TV service.
All I can say is there was a time back in the old Bell days when you could learn something from their installers. Today what they do is hardly something you would want to copy.
I'm with you Arthur!
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Lots of good advise from you all. I use the high end AMP/Tyco/TE mod plug presser tool and genuine AMP 8 position plugs. The AMP plugs are designed for solid wire. I seldom have problems and have installed 1,000 or so over the last 30 years. As you guys pointed out we should only put mod plugs on cables when needed. That is not the desired way to terminate but sometimes it is the way it needs to be done.
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But there are no RJ45 plugs and jacks anymore, although they are still listed USOC configurations. Help me here. :confused:
I could use some advi c e on this.
Sorry, I'm full of myself tonight.
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I use the high end AMP/Tyco/TE mod plug presser tool and genuine AMP 8 position plugs.
Then maybe it's time to look at that tool. They do wear out. What you describe is not normal. If factory cords work so should yours so you have to be doing something wrong.
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