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THANK YOU ARTHUR!
APB for Prez 2012.
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No need to get nasty, young man.
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Jeff Moss
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I have installing unified systems for small jobs since 1997 I can also install 2 separate networks like you guys do. what ever works best for my customers is the way to go here's one from 1998. https://web.archive.org/web/20011224212417/https://directconnect.bizland.com/images/10baset.jpg I started doing this in 1997 https://www.contact-directconnect.com/Smart-Jack.jpg Nordx IBDN/CDT Certified for Whats Comming Next!
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Here's a job I did back in 1998 in case the other link didn't work. https://www.contact-directconnect.com/Converged%20Home%20Networks/10base-T%20%20pic%201998.jpg These 10 Base-T systems work great in residential and here in Calgary their building 10,000 new homes per year . Lots of these new homes only have one cat5e installed. You can still have the same level of funtion on one cable with reduced complexity of having two separate systems.  More cable cost more money I charge per drop Nordx IBDN/CDT Certified for Whats Comming Next!
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We all charge per drop. What's your point?
Jeff Moss
Moss Communications
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"The jury is still out on this one. If a customer has funky problems, and the cables are shared, how do we absolutely know what's the cause?"
lol.
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We all charge per drop. What's your point? -------------------- Jeff Moss It cost less. Using the Smart Network concept of Structured Cabling I can give my customers a plethora of configuration options witch saves them money. "Reiterating saves money" https://www.contact-directconnect.com/Converged%20Home%20Networks/dual%20jack.jpg Nordx IBDN/CDT Certified for Whats Comming Next !
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Basically it boils down to two points of view. The right way & the wrong way.
While splitting can work and save the client money in the short term, down the road it's going to cost him much more than if it was done right the 1st time.
Your way may be all fine & dandy in a residential environment, where frequent changes, adds, etc are few and far between, but in the business world...the REAL world it's wrong, pure & simple.
I'm sure most techs charge a reduced rate for pulling the 2nd cable at the same time, so in the end, you're not really saving the client any great amount.
Scientists say that the universe is made up of Protons, Neutron & Electrons. They forgot "Morons".
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I have a question for all you guys.
What is the purpose of 25 pair cat5e cable?
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