"Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco?

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Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456395 11/15/11 03:51 PM
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skip555 RIP Moderator-Nisuko-Tie, General Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,648 Sarasota FL	same purpose as DB CAT 5E , just because they sell it doesn't mean its use is good practice Skip ------------------------------------ Serving SW and West central Fl since 1984

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Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456396 11/15/11 03:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,290 Shelter Island, New York Arthur P. Bloom Member
Arthur P. Bloom Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,290 Shelter Island, New York	You will not be able to follow the guidelines for termination, ie, leaving only 0.5" of jacket at the jack, when you terminate a 25-pair. There's no way to do it. Arthur P. Bloom "30 years of faithful service...15 years on hold"

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456397 11/15/11 03:59 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5,059 Likes: 6 NYC Silversam Moderator-1A2, Cabling
Silversam Moderator-1A2, Cabling Joined: May 2007 Posts: 5,059 Likes: 6 NYC	I've only seen it used when they wanted multiple (3+) cat 5E cables at the same location. Sam "Where are we going and why are we in this hand basket?"

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456398 11/15/11 04:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,395 Likes: 17 Fayetteville, NC EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire
EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,395 Likes: 17 Fayetteville, NC	Well, here's my last statement on this dreadfully-long thread about who is right and who is wrong: If it is physically possible to maintain separate wiring networks for voice and data, then by all means you should do it without discussion. If the circumstances leave you with a situation where sharing the same cable sheath is your only option, then do it with the understanding that you can't guarantee that there might not be issues down the road. Why all of the tension here? Every trade presents even the most seasoned professionals with situations where perfection cannot be maintained. We do what we can do in order to get the job done as best we can. Please stop all of this bickering over an issue that we all agree is the least-desirable manner in which to get the task accomplished. Geez............. Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456399 11/15/11 07:22 PM
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festec Member Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 191 Calgary Alberta	I have a question for all you guys. What is the purpose of 25 pair cat5e cable? Derrick ----------------------------------------- https://www.belden.com/pdfs/techinfo/DS_IBDN_25_Pair_Cat5E_Cable.pdf - "eh" tie line for voice :thumb: Nordx IBDN/CDT Certified for What's Commng Next!

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456400 11/15/11 10:27 PM
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upstateny Moderator-ESI, Shoretel Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,608 Albany, N.Y. USA	Well said Ed. John Corrigan New Phone Systems and Service

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456401 11/16/11 12:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,429 Likes: 3 Beachwood jeffmoss26 Member
jeffmoss26 Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,429 Likes: 3 Beachwood	Ed hath spoken. Jeff Moss Moss Communications Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling MBSWWYPBX, JGAE

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456402 11/16/11 05:34 AM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,136 Eden Prairie, MN MnDave Moderator-Vodavi, Vertical, XBlue
MnDave Moderator-Vodavi, Vertical, XBlue Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,136 Eden Prairie, MN	This thread is still alive? 25 pair Cat5e? Great Question! No one is really going to use it for data are they? Since many think they have to install only 5e for phones, the cable manufacturers may as well sell it. - Dave S. - You can never appease your ideologue opponents.

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456403 11/16/11 06:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,429 Likes: 3 Beachwood jeffmoss26 Member
jeffmoss26 Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,429 Likes: 3 Beachwood	We have a bunch of it (abandoned) here at work. It ran from the MDF to an IDF closet as a consolidation point. 110 blocks on the far side, station cables terminated on the front. We need to go cable mining! Jeff Moss Moss Communications Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling MBSWWYPBX, JGAE

Re: "Split" CAT5 wire - 2 pair data / 1 pair telco? #456404 11/17/11 09:17 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 191 Calgary Alberta festec Member
festec Member Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 191 Calgary Alberta	Its worth mining those 25 pair cables. The price of scap copper is pretty high now, and don't burn it that causes severe acid rain. If you can freeze it to -20 the outer jacket shatters. Up here in the Great White North thats not a problem I would wait till winter and throw it in a small cement mixer with a couple bricks it would clean that copper in no time increasing the value quite a bit. :thumb:

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