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Yep, Ed, torches and manholes were not a mix at Bell. In later years United (Sprint) said if it was okay for a splicer to enter it was safe to use a torch. Of course, my Boss said that was what splicer's helpers were for --- play canary. As a "Wrench Mechnic" splicer (remember bucket of bolts)in later years it had to show the "Kids" how to torch un-wipe aux. sleeves and build up tails for terminals. :dance: Have a good day, KLD 
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Pot wiping was a dieing art when I started, but that was the only way to wipe and un-wipe in a manhole. Even using a torch took some practice to get it right and they never even trained the new people to do that, figured enough of us old heads were around to take care of it. Auxiliary sleeves man KLD, that was all we did when I worked for a contract splicer, no cases allowed. RBF, sometimes the muslin would catch fire when wiping, you'd just give it a shot of nitrogen to put it out, can't believe he threw water on it must have been a panic reaction. Cable cars, I hated them with a passion.
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I remember when i started and worked in the manholes in Ca. having to purg cabels was a pain in the *ss. Took days to get them filled. After a few years PIC cable came down in cost so much purging was history. I should have a shelf for my old equipment. But i still use my tin cans and the string is way long today.
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I found the odd-pic color code for a 52 pr cable. PM me and I'll send it.
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Denis:
Isn't it just two standard 25 pair binders with a white/black and white/red spare? We have some left on the end of a reel that has those colors anyway. Now I am really curious.
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No Ed, odd pic had its own color code. I'd like it just for grins, sending ya a pm.
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EV607797, your initial response as well as subsequent responses have been very helpful to me. What I appreciated most was that you took the time out over a period of days to actually think about what it was that you were replying to. I have noticed this from you in other replys. Thank you.
Please make not of my questions, anywhere. Currently I have a question at T1'S, CSU AND DSU'S.
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All of the talk about paper cables reminded me of a major snafu that happened a few days before I arrived at Eglin Air Force base in Florida back in 1983. Apparently, one of the guys in my shop ( outside plant ) had turned a compressor off in one of the cable huts that contained all of the main feeder cables for the base and he forgot to turn it back on. Then it rained like hell and as you can imagine, it was not a good situation. Our Commander was embarrassed so he wanted the head of the person that did it mounted and hung on his wall. He never found out exactly who did it. I never found out who it was either. But I know it would have ended whoever’s career if the Commander found out who it was. I think there were some people that knew exactly who it was but they kept quite. I guess they felt it could have happened to any of us. And I guess it could have. :shrug: They finally had the compressor hardwired so it couldn’t be turned off and locked the circuit breaker panel doors.
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TT --- It DOES sound like a Gov't job, alright. Don't fix the problem, wire around it! I worked as a cable splicer/repairman for a company that was bound and determined to NOT pay OT --- sent me to school for two weeks. Only problem was I had just opened an aerial 1200 pr pulp cable to do a throw. 5 o'clock came, we wrapped down for the night, the boss never sent anyone out to finish. The day before I got back the great wet came ---- lost it all. They sure paid me a LOT of OT to fix it. But supervisors NEVER make a mistake, right? KLD 
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A week in the sun will do it to the blanket material. We always wrapped them with slicker, but if you expected someone to come back the next day, who'd bother with the slicker. We didn't call um stupidvisors for nothing.
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