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What do I need to get started using 710 connectors? I have some outside projects coming up and didn't want to sit in the cold long enough to do the whole thing in scotchlocks.
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Maybe this link will help.
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If it's a short-term project, I can rent you the tools instead of buying them (they are mighty expensive to buy for sure).
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Maybe this is the wrong venue to bring this up - but I'll try it anyway, and moderators - shut me down if I'm wrong.
Do you guys like the MS/2 system? I've used it a number of times and I really don't care for it. I mean I started with B-Connectors (and did a bit of stripping & sleeving too)so maybe I'm old fashioned, but I found the 3M system bulky, ungainly and it made HUGE splices. I mean, you practically needed a garbage can for a 1200 pr splice! [small exaggeration]
I've heard complaints about "good-and-plentys" failing, but I never saw it. I liked them and the Picabond system was pretty good too, but the 3M - I don't know.
What's supposed to be so good about it?
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Sam, Please jump to my thread I'm starting so we don't hijack this one.... 
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Bill, that helps a bit. I still need the arm and the ratty wooden box/chair to mount it to, correct :-) Ed, that might be a better option. It's only a few hundred pairs but it needs to be a physically small splice.
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If it has to be small and tight....Picabonds. Ed, you got a tool and a third hand tool? :shrug: My 1 dollar, 2.98, plus change....  :
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DJ, Yes, I have the tool, the "third arm" and the "splicer's seat" (a nice term for a plywood box painted O.D. Green). I like to use 709 connectors for small-count splices that need to be small and tight, especially since they don't require any special tools. It's a lot of work to drag out the 710 tool for a small job, however I have the 745A tool that terminates the 710 modules that's a lot more convenient and easier to clean. I even have quite a few of the ten-pair 710 modules too. I like them for cutting in terminals, etc.
Sam, I HATED the MS2 system. Pairs always jumped out of the spring positions, even after you checked and rechecked. Everything was perfectly aligned until you closed the handle. I decided to ditch them and stick with 710. If you manage to screw up a 710 module, you need to find a new line of work! :rofl:
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Ed, I actually do not have a cavernous warehouse but in storage I do have the "ratty" box, the Amp tool, and the "third hand" for it. Picabonds rule....boo, BIX. 
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Ok while we are talking about splicing, I mentioned this to Ed earlier...a cabling guy I was talking to today said that 'beanies' are really Scotchloks, because he says they look like jellybeans, and 'B-wire connectors' which I always called Beanies, are the ones with all those fancy nicknames we adore so much. Who is right here? PS. It has to be me, because alarm guys use Beanies, not Scotchloks, and we call them Beanie boys!
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