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I bought a Payphone case that was striped of the program board and related items.

Anybody know how to get the keypad to work with a standard Western Electric module or “guts”. It’s actually an Elcotel and the Keypad and Hook Switch mounting has 61C coin dial printed on it, with the standard round eleven-pin plug.

I am sure I can get the standard gray plastic keypad to fit, but I would prefer to use the chrome keypad if possible.
I’ve tried wiring it many ways with no luck. I get touch tones, but no dial tone.
I tried a different Taiwan unit and I can get dial tone, but no touch-tone. I would kind of like to have both.

The keypad gets plugged into a Elcotel board. The line powers the board and dial tone is heard and the dial can dial. If you need a board I have some.
Ken

By the way, you will also need a battery for the board.

Yeah, I know thank you, I am trying to do it on the cheap. I only paid 30 bucks for the phone, and I don't want to pay another 100 for a board, but I will keep that in mind.
I have an Intellicall Payphone that is complete, I paid 30 bucks for as well. That one has to be programmed for 25 bucks. (Or not if I don't feel like it.) These phones have no real historical value, so I'm not to worried about authenticity.
What I really want is a Western Electric Dial Payphone. (Of course)
I have a couple of interesting links for Bell System public services manuals (Payphone) that I already posted in another thread. These are fun, but of course kind of long winded.

https://wedophones.com/TheBellSystem/pdf/bsp/coin/PublicServices1reduced.pdf
https://wedophones.com/TheBellSystem/pdf/bsp/coin/PublicServices2reduced.pdf

I forgot to list the link for the page those other links are listed on. More telephone manuals than you could ever want.
Bell System Practices
https://wedophones.com/TheBellSystem/bell_system_practices.htm

How about retrofitting it with a Western Electric Chassis 32C board? It uses the same 61C coin dial, which I have. (It looks like I can get a 32C board fairly inexpensive.)
I'm not sure about using the same coin shoot and relay.
I would prefer to have a proper Payphone rather than a cyborg.

You can make it work using a standard 32C, but it will not accept/reject coins because this functionality requires a true coin phone ground start line. Coins deposited will just pile up in the escrow chamber until it eventually becomes clogged. You can gently press the armature of the coin relay in by hand periodically to dump the coins into the coin return, but there's no easy way to make this happen otherwise.

It will however function as a regular phone with no coin deposit required in order to make or receive a call.

Thank you

EBay has the Elcotel TSG Pay Phone Chassis Assy# 44119-200-03B, which looks like the original part from this case.
New for 17.00 plus shipping. For a hobby project, this looks like the best option.
Now that I have the bug, I might have to hook up the other complete Intellicall I got at the same time.

I'm pretty sure you'll need the programming unit for the Elcotel board. You'll also need to make sure that the coin relay coil is low-voltage (typically 24 or 32 volts). There should be a sticker on the windings that indicates the coil voltage. If it is unmarked, then it is probably the standard 130 volt coil.