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The Verizon technicians we talk with have been saying for the last few years that the upper tier management changed, and they believe "Wireless" is the future of everything. If the technology doesn't evolve to grant that dream, perhaps they'll wake up and realize that won't work out for all services.

I've read some comment, by the way, that these wireless service boxes do not qualify under normal regulation requirements, so they get away with more than they did with wireline service.

As to the "When the power goes out" thing, I'm not really sure how true that holds any more. I don't believe the infrastructure is quite what it was, in terms of the copper going right to the CO with rooms full of batteries, but, rather, there are now more objects in the way - repeater cabinets, fiber transition equipment, etc, which may make the performance of the network inconsistent with the loss of power. Since you'll never know what's between you and there, counting on it to operate in the absence of A/C power, geographically, is probably not the best plan any more.

I can see the reasoning behind their plans, though. Fiber optics are somewhat "future proof" but still require maintenance, and miles of cable, equipment, utility poles, etc, which can be skipped if the service just radiates to your end customer. As has been said, many people are satisfied with the level of service they receive wirelessly, so, why not?

My thoughts are in line with what Adam P. just said. Our nation's telecommunications infrastructure is pretty much up for dibs anymore to anyone willing to buy it. People have become so conditioned to the crappy performance of cell phones that they may truly become the new norm.

Think about the literal millions of man-hours that the Bell System spent to make massive improvements in call quality over copper plant. All of these efforts are going out the window now since the new norm is to accept poor call quality.

What a sad day we will soon be seeing.

This was in the local paper on Sunday.

https://www.delawareonline.com/view...g-disconnect-Telcos-abandon-copper-lines

What do the telcos expect businesses like where I work to do with our PRI?

SIP

We have fought the transition for years but have finally bit the bullet and are now migrating our customers to SIP.

First, it's a migration to Coax/internet/analog lines---then from that it's going to be to SIP. Those that have a system that can accept SIP trunks efficiently, then we give them an opportunity to switch, now.

It's a sad situation, but we have to stay in business.

We are installing a VoIP system tomorrow--and bought four 2X2 3/4 inch backboards. We used to go through 2X4 backboards like crazy. Had to have at least 4 or 5 in stock at all times. Now---the stuff goes up on one 2X2---Comcast or Charter Cable Modem/Router, a shelf for the VoIP system and a switch, a shelf for the UPS and a small patch panel. That's it. Everything is smaller and easier to install. No 66 blocks, no amphenol connectors---Sad....

But that's the way things are going. We just roll with the punches.

OK you have a point - our Call Manager supports SIP trunking, we elected to stay with our PRI at least for the time being. It was enough going from our 3Com system to Cisco.