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I've included the link to the picture since it is full res and I don't want to force the site to try and resize.

PhoneRoom 2

They needed someone to fix some printers and verify what phones were in use and where to see what could be disconnected. I don't know if that unit whatever it is can have the hunt group truncated and roll to a busy but the site was only using 3 of the 18-20 lines they had.

The rest of the room should probably go into ugly work, after I tile and combine but pictures 4 & 5 have another system that I think is decommissioned. There was an IDF with another system that I didn't take pictures of.

The field looks like it was setup nicely, but then however many years of people screwed it up.

If you are wondering the cold air return for the HVAC comes in right above the field.

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I'm having a tough time understanding what the question is, but if you're referring to the equipment at the top of the photo #5, it's a 16-C cabinet, without the cover, and it has quantity (2) 584C panels mounted in it. The top one has (I believe) all 13 slots equipped with CO line cards, and the bottom one has 2 line cards.

Hunt groups (we telephone people call it ISG) are a function of the serving central office, and have nothing to do with the CPE (Customer Provided Equipment).

It is extremely probable that dial tones *DO* pass through the 1A2 equipment. The entire room needs to be documented and re-wired in a way that is industry-compliant. Doing this type of work is right up my alley.

A quick test to determine if the 1A2 equipment is involved would be to dial the local 1mH test line from each of your customer's lines and use a probe to test the terminal blocks associated with the cabinet, listening for tone.


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Little fuzzy on the question also. The system on the wall behind the HVAC unit is an old 80s/early 90s model Toshiba Strata key system. As Arthur says the pics 4 & 5 are 584C panels in a 16C rack apparatus which was a 1A2 key system.


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Same thing here. What's the question?

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He asks "Can someone identify the unit in the picture?" in the "Subject" line of the original post.


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Looks like some good cards in that 584 panel.


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The job was go fix a printer because they can't print, and while your there, document and determine if any of the phone lines could be disconnected. It was a "heath club", it had at least 3 different owners counting the current one, and it had been there since the 80's. All management had been replaced 1.5-2 years prior and I got nice blank looks on everything but the main number they used. I was supposed to be there tops 2 hours. I was there 4 figuring our the CF.

I stupidly forgot to flip one of the phones over and see if it was a particular brand of key system nothing was emblazoned across the case. It was a generic no frills black multi-line phone handset with a 2line LCD and 2 vertical 10 or 11 button rows. The messy closet had 14 lines documented broken out to biscuits.

Within the last month probably at the urging of the new owner, TWTC had been in to port a bunch of numbers over to their service. They ported 8 lines that rang the desk phones and 2 direct lines. They had problems with the install. There was no DT on Line 7 no one at the site had noticed since they never went above line 3. TWTC had also ported a bunch of numbers which I suspect initially led to the IDF I didn't take pictures of in the decommissioned business office. There was an offline system crammed into a side closet. Calls to those numbers (endless ring) didn't light on the current tenants phones. There were still 4 pairs active on the LEC NID that allowed long distance outbound after they were supposedly ported and one not-ported pair still punched into a block that I flagged for LEC followup.
Site management never saw a phone bill I'm guessing.

I suggested they keep the first 5 lines (site claimed never had more than 3 on hold) so no one would roll off into a disconnected number and be hung up on until the internal wireing could be sorted. At this point, the site has 2 co-managers, a maint guy, and a few staff.

From the data side. I told them that the data network would need to be documented before before trying any major upgrades. wall Boxes not labeled. It was a lowest bidder install and there were consumer 10/100 switches scattered all over. The wireless had been installed by a lazy installer as well. POE injector was 3' from the device it was powering - coverage included the parking lot and street but not half the facility.


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