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Doesn't twisting offer an advantage over non-twisted pairs for longer cable runs even for analog and digital voice applications? The 4 pair CAT3 cable I've used has had conductor pairs twisted to varying degrees. Even 25 pair count has loose twisted conductors. For analog and digital voice, my thought is CAT3. For data, CAT 5E would seem to be good for a hotel/motel. Back when deregulation started, and sparkies were all excited to run phone wiring, there was a horror story about a electrical supply house selling a bunch of silver satin line cord to an electrician who installed it in a new 12-plex apartment building. When the time came to heat up the services, they couldn't get them to work. Seems the flat untwisted line cord acted like a giant capacitor. This resisted the voice frequencies and prevented conversations. A voice grade twisted pair has enough twists to knock out the capacitance that keeps voice frequencies from getting through. A data grade twisted pair has more twists, and in the right places, to allow high frequency data through.
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there's still miles of untwisted quad wire out there that works just fine.
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Back when deregulation started, and sparkies were all excited to run phone wiring, there was a horror story about a electrical supply house selling a bunch of silver satin line cord... Anybody remember 8 conductor silver satin? Ran across an office building a long time ago where it was used for their Merlin and data wiring.  -Hal
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I service the phone cabling for 6 large hotels in NJ, all the cables to rooms are 3 pair cat 3, this seem to work the best for me each hotel has about 400-500 guest room each. Do not splice any room cables this will bite you back later
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I have a spool of 6 conductor silver satin that was given to me. It mainly collects dust. I occasionally make a line cord for a partner set or SLT that's no more than 6-7 feet long, but even that's pretty rare.
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We used to use 8 conductor satin cords to connect D4 channelbanks to LEC demarcs.
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