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Hal,

I repeat the message, as sort of an evangelical mission.

I remain the eternal optimist.

Also the eternal cynic and curmudgeon, I'm afraid.

But one must not abandoned one's principals in the face of adversity.

Has anyone noticed there is less resistance in getting floor pedestals in executive areas compared to general meeting areas.

Seems the E level and C level execs don't want to see or trip over telephone/computer cables at their desks or boardrooms but for the rest of the staff take the cabling from a wall jack and put a throw carpet over it seems to be all they want to pay for.

I have to agree with Arthur - Especially if they already planned the electric to the middle of the room, they should have at least pulled an empty conduit for phone / data at the same time.

Ran into this issue at my last job in the conference room...they wanted a nice new conference table with an IP speakerphone in the middle. We ran the wire under the carpet and it worked OK.
I think they finally ended up trenching out the floor (I left a year ago) to run the cables the right way.

I have in the past tried to advise customer to do floor boxes move voice data outlets from behind doors. It is such a struggle I just leave it now. If the is an outlet on the prints I put a cable there and fix it after the fact.Cabling an engineering company now and his words were we checked every office and all the outlets are in the right place. 10 or so are right behind the door. Go figure they are the smart ones??

Bad Planning.

I've found, in new building projects, the main concern of the owners is paint colors and carpeting.

According to the NEC, it's a violation of the code to install any cable, except type CMUC (with limiting provisions) under carpet. Table 800.154(a).

The ONLY method I use to take a cable from the wall to a table in the room is using an approved duct (aka threshold) from the wall to the table.

When installing rough wire outlets, it's always a good idea to find the carpenter framing the doors to point out which side is hinge side. I have gotten better direction from carpenters than any architect, owner or engineer. Be especially mindful of pocket doors. They will "mess" you day real fast.

Rcaman

Ah, pocket doors. I remember when I worked for the cable company, installers drilling through walls to come out behind the set. Customer calls a couple of days later saying that they can't move the pocket door to close it. That's because the idiot ran the cable right through it. Now somebody owes the customer a new door.

-Hal

One of these days I will will share a story that involved a new telephone installer, Columbia University's Lowe Library, a priceless, one-of-a-kind, solid mahogany, one-man private elevator installed by Otis for Teddy Roosevelt when he was CU's president, and an installation order to install a Trimline® in the pre-existing telephone niche in the elevator car.

Suffice it to say that the elevator door had a similar problem closing after I (oops...I mean "HE") finished screwing the phone to the elevator.

Storytime with Uncle Arthur!!