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Found another bonehead issue today.....
Alarm company used their stranded wire *terminal wire* and punched it down onto a standard RJ21X block (krone). I'll put money on it they either just ran it across the clips with a needle nose and or use a 66 head on it...
Is stranded even a ~acceptable~ wire to be used on IDC connectors.
Second, what gauge rating is acceptable in IDC connectors.
The wiring was real thin. I know, stranded feels thing. This stuff was like 26 gauge I presume....
Anyhow, ripped it out, ran solid back to their RJ31X screw terminals.
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Thx Arthur.
Can't deciper if it says stranded is even acceptable
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Stranded wire was never to be terminated on 66 type connectors.
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Mother never used stranded. That's why it's not mentioned.
Arthur P. Bloom
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When confronted with stranded wire at GTE (that had to extend to a punch down block), our practice was to put Stakons (spades) on the wire, terminate it on a biscuit jack and then run a jumper from there to the 66 block.
I'm not sure if there was a GTEP for that, but I'll look.
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Since this was a security system why not keep it authentic. The beanie boys (who actually know that you can't punch stranded) use a beanie to transition from the stranded to a short piece of solid that gets punched down.
If you do that I think you are entitled to a free propeller hat...
-Hal
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LOl. And that's only if they even know that you need to use a Krone tool on the block and not a 66
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Actually with the new Krones you can use a 110. Problem is how do you tell if it's one of the new ones.
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LOl. And that's only if they even know that you need to use a Krone tool on the block and not a 66 I had to go look at a krone block in my junk box and pull out my 66 tool after reading this. I knew it wasn't going to work, but it tweaked my brain just right to make me go 
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