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I especially enjoyed his professional advice at the 7:38 minute mark.

People, please don't listen to these DIYs inventing their own way of doing things and advising you to make the same assumptions/mistakes.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!

This one's even better: This yokel does the entire installation in reverse, literally. He pulls out the old wire instead of using the old one to pull the new one through! I especially liked when he chose to re-use the original T-18 staples (in his words "brads" at the 10:15 mark) instead of those white staples designed for Romex cable. I need to go chew on a gun barrel.

LET'S DO IT IN REVERSE!


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Wow. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. And very little knowledge is very dangerous.

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Wow.I didn't watch the whole thing, technically he is not wrong Data does ride the Orange and Green pairs. White blue white brown would be unused (except in poe applications). Would I try to to send data on the orange and green pair and analog voice on Blue and Brown? Hell no.


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Go back and look at the edit that I did. You'll get a chuckle.


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Man oh Man if we hang in for another 5-10 years when Telecom swings back to where they need guys who know this stuff we should be golden. Alas by then I will probably be a night stocker at my local grocery store. As it is I'm getting tired of the I don't shave yet IT guy telling me what's wrong and what to do.


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Man oh Man if we hang in for another 5-10 years when Telecom swings back to where they need guys who know this stuff we should be golden.

Nahh, that will never happen. Information like that is just another nail in the coffin.

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The second guy is a total moron. It's amazing that he said and did 50 wrong things in one video. What a mouth-breather.

When I was a kid, the expression was "never hand a microphone to an idiot." Now we have the added benefit of watching them in addition to hearing them.


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Ed, I've had to split cables in very select applications before. I don't like it, but sometimes new wire just can't be run. These two guys have no idea what they are doing though.


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Originally Posted by Arthur P. Bloom
The second guy is a total moron. It's amazing that he said and did 50 wrong things in one video. What a mouth-breather.

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Good grief...

The two morons narrating these videos are precisely the reason why I got out of this business 20+ years ago. At the time I was working for a company that did commercial fire alarm and industrial security systems (we did nurse call and some phone systems as well.) We actually knew what we were doing AND took great pride in our work. Many times we would take over the service contracts for systems that were wired by idiots like this. What amazed me is the attitude of some of the so-called professional installers (usually electricians) who installed the original cabling. They would get annoyed when we questioned or corrected them usually making comments like "well it's not power" or (my favorite) "it doesn't have to look pretty, it just has to work." I can't tell you how many jobs I was on with newly installed wiring that had ground faults, shorts, miswired pairs, and split pairs because they didn't want to follow the standard color code (and even using different split pairs in between connection points - inconsistent being inconsistent.) We even serviced a hotel that had a delayed fire alarm activation during an actual fire due to a miswired smoke detector circuit that was "T-tapped."

Ed,

I got a laugh from the response that the moron in the first video made when you informed him of the error of his ways in the YouTube comments. Your analogy with the lamp cord was completely appropriate, but it's obvious that he has the "it doesn't have to look pretty, it just has to work" mentality.

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