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Partner ACS R7.0: I want to set up ring on 3 CO lines to a 70 volt paging amp. So the customer can hear the phones ringing over the paging system (I would like to just connect an extension port to the MIC port on the amp). I did look at the Bogen TPU-15A Telephone paging amplifier as an option. I could switch out the Bogen C10 70v amp and replace it with the Boden TPU-15a (it has a night ringer input on it). Do I have to assign ringing to an extension and connect the extesion to the amp (lack of voltage concerns) or do I use the contact closure feature and adjunct?

Randy

An extension hooked to a compatible Amps works or you can use a Bogen NR100 or a Viking K600D hooked to the existing Amp

An extension hooked to a compatible Amp

I think that needs clarification. That would be a telephone paging amplifier that has a tone generator or night ringer option. The tone generator or night ringer must be able to be triggered by normal ring voltage for you to be able to connect directly to an extension port.

You definitely DO NOT want to connect a system extension port directly to a microphone or any amp input. A mic input may or may not cause the extension to go off hook but if it doesn't the ring voltage will certainly damage the amp. You are wrong in thinking that connecting an extension to an amp input would result in a ringing over the PA system. All you would get is a 30Hz buzz until the amp craps out.

You are also wrong in you assumption that a contact closure and adjunct has anything to do with what you want to do.

You are correct about assigning ringing to an unused extension port for those lines that you want to ring on the night bell. You would connect the T/R pair from that port to the night bell/tone generator telephone ring, not the contact ring.

The Bogen TPU-15 WILL NOT trigger off ring voltage, it requires a contact closure. So it is not going to help you. The TPU-35 DOES have what you want.

As was said you can also use a standalone tone generator/night bell such as the Bogen NR100 connected to an unused input on the existing PA amp.

-Hal

use the extension as you thought, but instead of the amp/loud speaker combination, buy you a Valcom loud ringer. Looks just like a paging horn and gives the warble tone ring.

Used car lots love them.

I've had luck with the Viking PA-2A. See https://www.vikingelectronics.com/products/view_product.php?pid=317

Thank you guys. I love sitting back and listening to other techs, who know what works and why. I am going with the PA-2A.

Randy

If you do not have an available ext port to use for ringing, you can use the AUX port on the back of any system phone which is already set up to ring on the lines you wish to use as a trigger for a port which is designed to accept ringing as the trigger for the paging system.

In other words the AUX port will send the same signal as an ext dedicated to this purpose. I onyl mention this in case you do nto have an unused ext port, but have say a break room phone which is not typically used.

Actually you can do the same thing by bridging the T/R pair for that extension anywhere. You don't want to use an active extension for this however since transferred and intercom calls to that extension will also cause the ringer to sound.

-Hal