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Hi:
I am unalbe to call 1206 - my entry in ars is 12 but for some reason whenever i call 1206xxxxxxx the system uses the local 7 digit entry for the call and doen't look at the ars 12 entry - any other area code with 12xx works ok

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It sounds like 206 is involved in an overlay plan. Do you have to dial your own area code to make a local call? If so, you'll have to adjust your HNPA (assuming this is a Definity-type product).


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No - not a overlay problem

Here is what is going on --

ARS DIGIT ANALYSIS TABLE
Location: all Percent Full: 17

Dialed Total Route Call Node ANI
String Min Max Pattern Type Num Reqd
12 11 11 p5 fnpa n
13 11 11 p5 fnpa n
14 11 11 p5 fnpa n
15 11 11 p5 fnpa n
16 11 11 p5 fnpa n
17 11 11 p5 fnpa n
18 11 11 p5 fnpa n
19 11 11 p5 fnpa n
1900 11 11 deny fnpa n
1976 11 11 deny fnpa n
1xxx555 11 11 deny fnpa n
1xxx976 11 11 deny fnpa n
2 7 7 p8 hnpa n
206 10 10 p5 fnpa n
211 3 3 p2 svcl n


list ars route-chosen 12064441212

ARS ROUTE CHOSEN REPORT

Location: 1 Partitioned Group Number: 1

Dialed Total Route Call Node
String Min Max Pattern Type Number Location

4 7 7 p8 hnpa all


If i dial 1206 number - somehow it is stripping the 1206 and in this case since it was 1206--4 it sends the call out the 7 digit local call pattern for 4 -


list trace station 8880 Page 1

LIST TRACE

time data

11:11:07 tone-receiver 01B0105 cid 0x31
11:11:07 active station 8880 cid 0x31
11:11:13 dial 912064444444
11:11:13 term trunk-group 6 cid 0x31
11:11:13 dial 912064444444
11:11:13 route-pattern 1 preference 1 cid 0x31
11:11:13 seize trunk-group 6 member 26 cid 0x31
11:11:13 Setup digits 4444444
11:11:13 Calling Number & Name NO-CPNumber NO-CPName
11:11:13 Proceed trunk-group 6 member 26 cid 0x31
11:11:17 idle station 8880 cid 0x31

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Where do you change the HNPA - because my home npa is 253

LOCATIONS

ARS Prefix 1 Required For 10-Digit NANP Calls? n

Number Name Timezone Daylight-Savings Number Plan
Offset Rule Area Code
1 Main + 00:00 2 253

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Maybe I'm not understanding but if area code (206) is long distance then:

1206 11 11 p5 fnpa
and
12 11 11 p5 fnpa

are asking for the same thing and should be sending it out.

You would never dial 10 digits without dialing the 1 first so it would have to be 11min 11 max.

Are there additional pages in your ARS page showing a related area code denial?


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OK, I see what you're saying. Bail on what I said earlier. Instead, perform a list ars ana 1206 and see if there isn't an entry for that specific area code.


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Hi:

I've been doing routing for many years and have not run into this problem before.
My routing is pretty basic - as an entry for 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 etc and entry's for 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc. (no entry for 1206)
The problem is that when i call any area code 1212, etc except for 1206 it works fine.

The system is dropping the 1206 and sends the call out as a 7 digit number and routes the call as a local 7 digit number - so if i dial 12064444444 it grabs the route for the 4 - and sends out 4444444. If i dial 12065555555 it dials out 5555555 from what ever is on the 5 entry. Hope this makes sense to someone....

Seems to me that there is something before it hits the ars tables that tells it to drop the 1206 even though i am in the 253 area code and the only place i see where you put in you area code is on the location page (which i have 253)

Any help would be appreciated

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One other thing about this is that even when I take out my 12 entry out of the ars table, at which point i cannot dial any 12xx area codes - the 1206xxxxxxx still will drop the 1206 and try to go out as a local 7 diget number....

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Could you try using your home phone and calling the 1-206-xxx-xxxx to see if there isn't a screw up at the local co in routing this area code.

Then take a look in your toll tables. Maybe there is an odd entry with a n somewhere holding this up.

Do you have maintenance to have Avaya check your routing for the issue?


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Hi Rhonda:

this is for any 1206 number -
there is nothing in the toll tables -
and trying to avoid calling Avaya - as I do not have maintenance -
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Well if you're willing to stick it out with us, I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of it. The price is certainly right!

I'm thinking that 1-206-xxx-xxxx calls have been defined as local toll rather than long distance (or appropriately defined as local, but with incorrect entries in the LNPA tables). Issue a display dialplan command and see if 206 is listed as one of the seven Local Area Codes. You'll find these at the top of the form, just to the right of your Home Area Code. It should be there if 206 is one of your local area codes.

If it's not there, then I need to take this another direction. But if it IS there, take a look at the CO codes that are listed in the LNPA Toll Table for the 206 area code. I'll bet one of the CO codes shown is 444 (along with the other prefixes chosen for your testing), and that it's defined as a local call. Actually, a quicker way to answer these questions might be to issue a display lnpa-toll 206:444 command and see what you get.

You also need to check the Prefix Mark for the various route patterns. If 206 represents a local area code for you, make sure that Prefix Mark for 206's route pattern is set to 0.

I would also remove the ars analysis table entry for 206 with the min/max digits of 10/10. Even if you modify it to be 1206 with 11/11, it won't fix the problem.


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I think I see something.

When you did a 'list ars route chosen 12064441212' you got a hnpa entry. Change that entry in your ARS table to fnpa and try again.


list ars route-chosen 12064441212

ARS ROUTE CHOSEN REPORT

Location: 1 Partitioned Group Number: 1

Dialed Total Route Call Node
String Min Max Pattern Type Number Location

4 7 7 p8 hnpa all


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when i try that I get
For call type FNPA, Min must be greater than 9 and equal to Max

Seems like there is a home npa programed in the system somewhere but i am not sure -

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you want your ars to look like this:

1206, 11, 11, PX, fnpa, all

Also look in your ars digit conversion table to make sure the area code isn't being stripped.


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