I thought the discontinued the DBS line and got rid of all their dealers.

What is the story?

Wow jmac it must be true. What year is this anyway?

Panasonic made two brands of phone systems from two different factories. KME and Matshusta come to mind. Along about 2004 they decided to abandon the VB product line and offered to let the DBS dealers become KXT dealers.

That's the story as I remember it.

Carl

DBS is discontinued, but there are still a pot load of TD dealers and the TDA is roughly 4 years old and on it's 4th(?) software upgrade. It's a pretty flexible system and $$ is pretty reasonable. If I had to guess, I'd say P'sonic finally realized how stupid it was to support 2 completely incompatible lines that pretty much competed for the same market. Guess I should be tickled that I went to work for a TD dealer, rather than a DBS dealer! I imagine an awful lot of DBS dealers made the jump to TD. This may sound prideful, but I work for the 3rd largest P'sonic dealer in the country! Like I said, I'm pretty tickled! John C.

the tde is about to replace the tda.

which product was offered through Graybar?

The KX-T product lines are (were) offered for sale through Graybar and many other wholesalers. The DBS was purchased directly from Panasonic.

At one point the VA which was an early version of
the VB that evolved into the DBS line was available from graybar

The VA series, yes a very solid system.
I still have a couple of em working that i had to install over 20 years ago.

I must admit that talking to panasonic was like talking to a brick wall(Tech support).

me too !!sts you must go back as far as i do do you
remember the northcom premier looked exactly
like the original starplus sp-616 wedgey phone
how about telemon,gte jupiter ,azuzi ,kanda
I can go on for at least 5 more mins

BTW Carl its Matsushita and his first name was konosuke !

Actually, I guess anyone can BUY the TDA product, BUT getting it operational requires registration and that takes a certified tech and the web site. John C. (Not Garand)

SNC:

The Northcom looked like the original Vodavi phone as it was made by them Vodavi or GST.
Goldstar or LG.

Ever heard of a CRITTEN (spelling) made by RTEC ?
How about the CONCORD or DELTA ?

Your turn.

Solstar By ________________?

Sun Moon Star

Focus by _______________ ?

ATI, the General Dynamics owned wing of American Telecom later sold to Fujitsu.

My favorite bad system of the time, besides Creterion, was the GaiTronics Cohort. I bought about 5 of them, bought them all back, then bought out a guy who had about 10 in his customer base :0(

Loved those Picofuses.

Carl

we had a cohort phone on the shelf for
15 years befor it went to the dump.

delta as in galaxy communications was the first
key system that i installed in a travel agency
and has been moved and still running

sun moon star yes talking to sales guy at
a nata show booth 12 softa keys and a biringaral
its all coming back.....

Creterion came with its own metal backboard.
Were we smart ? or what ?
I got my own words for it.

Any who..., we did make it and sometimes i wonder if we would of been better off sticking with 10a1 and and 13 line panels, but then again
You do what you have to do to survive.

Its time i park this pony and get back to the real world. Don't you just love it?

Some are teachers, some are preachers and some
just put it anywhere you want it.....???
You got it Telephone persons (Gender).

No page 2 just good___________day!

yep remember those days a good tech could terminate 100 female amps with a butterfly tool in a day .Can you believe the original company I worked for actaully made the amps for the job to order talk about point of failure if the wrong
guy made them up or had them tiped over......

Focus Pocus --- Fujitsu
And you thought Screaming Eagle was a Harley??

I Guess this should move to installers.

B did you install the starlog/ sbcs /omni/series 1
still have 2 of them out there no focus though?

Oh, I do remember that Criterion. They were very popular for residences since the phones were so small. The only complaint we ever got was that in order for all of the phones to ring, the system had to be placed in the night mode, causing the light to flash at the top of the phone. We just stuck a paper dot sticker over the LED!

Not to change the subject, but, to change the subject. SNC, my boss says the TDA is neither being dropped or replaced. The TDE is just fully IP ready, he's going to the 'unveiling' later this month.

Back to 'old folks week', was the Criterion the one that the base was maybe twice as wide as the handset and maybe 2 inches longer. Kinda tan in color, and any system size you wanted, as long as it was 3 X 8.

And who remembers the Code-A-Phone 516. Yep, the same folks that made that 35 pound answering machine the telcos forced on people back before CPE was considered legitimate. They bought a system lock, stock, and barrel and put it out through their dealers. They were beginning to feel Phone Mate and several other answering machine companies nipping at their heels and decided to get into the telephone system business. Only 1 thing wrong with the system. Horrible crosstalk, if you installed the optional speakerphone board in the KSU. It gave speakerphone capability to all phones in the system. And that was their 'hook'. Cheaper than the TIE 516, ITT701, and anybody else, WITH all phones speakerphones. (No extra charge for the crosstalk!) Unfortunately, the board had been designed, but never tested before C-A-P bought the system. Yes, I worked for a Code-A-Phone dealer, and no, it wasn't pretty! All the systems were recalled and they never did get the problem fixed! The Criterion reminded me about that, because C-A-P purchased the right to build an electrically compatible 3 X 8 system with cosmetics like the 516 system. Anyhow, that was pretty much the last straw for C-A-P. I think they died completely about 1987. Hmmmm, maybe this should be in the REAL TRIVIA thread! John C. (Not Garand)

the mpr card will fit right in a tda and
and we were told from the get go in first class 2003 (this was even b4 the tva was released 3 day school for me)that this was an interum platform means that the technolgy is moving real fast now so expect many changes

The official word is the TDA and TDE will be available concurrently, with the cards being interchangeable. Any other members of this board going to the national dealers meeting in two weeks?

I hope thats the case the whole thought
of a full IP system makes me want to Retire .