thanks guys that worked,
one more quick question. now when i dial 8 i dont get return dial tone but can dial out as normal. if i take out the shortcode i dial 8 and get return dial tone
oh the norcal profile is mine too that is toast

Martin Wolfe
Wolfe Communications
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