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ok, got a client that wants to do overhead music and background music. They are getting a business account with Sirius to handle the music for these apps but need us to wire the office with speakers, etc.

I am thinking that bogen should have something like this but not sure. Below is an outline of what they want. Any advice welcomed.

1: 16 speakers
2: Volume and on/off controls in every office
3: A page port so when they page it will be heard overhead
4: A door chime for when the front door opens it will chime over the speakers overhead

Also...what would you recommend for overhead speakers that sound decent enough for this.

Thanks in advance!!!!

go to the valcom website or give them a call, they have a form you can fill in and they will design the system or you .

Im sure you could do it with bogen componets also but Ive always used valcom

Bogen TPU amplifier has everything you need page input with music mute and external contact for tone/ringer
Atlas/Soundolier has ceiling speakers and volume controls I use the coaxial speakers for better high freq. coverage
Take a look at this information it was left in another post by Rover88 https://www.bogen.com/support/productcatalog/pdfs/SysDsgn.pdf

Valcom is good but the speakers are pretty cheesy if you want decent music. It's really a paging system.

I second the Bogen TPU used with decent speakers. The cheapest way to go is with the usual 8" speaker with ceiling baffles. There are all kinds of 8" speakers, I prefer the Quam #8C10FEPAX which will give you decent low freq response especially when installed open in the ceiling. If you can't get Quam use that model as a reference.

This is going to be a 70 volt system so each speaker will need to have a line transformer. The transformers should be as big (weight wise) as you can find for low frequency response. Plenty of crappy transformers out there that will saturate at anything lower than about 100Hz.

Speakers are available in packages, that is mounted to the baffle with transformers installed. Don't forget the tile bridge, don't make the mistake of using toggle bolts to fasten the speaker to the ceiling tile.

The volume controls are called attenuators and will need to be the type for a 70 volt system. #AT-10 is pretty much a universal number for a 10 watt attenuator such as you will need.

-Hal

Are you going to supply the satellite receiver for the Serius? If yes, then look at Antex - they make some great Serius and XM receivers. They will connect to the music input on the Bogen amp.

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Bill

Unfortunately the only Antex receiver the would be suitable for this is the XM-100. This is a commercial receiver that also includes a schedule controller that can be programmed to change channels on an hourly and daily basis. (Dayparting)

I became familiar with Antex because they made sat receivers for DMX long before getting into XM and Sirius. Their XM-100 design is based on the DMX receiver.

They do manufacture some triple receivers for XM and also Sirius but they are for high end home users. (Read $$$$.) Not sure where they are available either.

Unfortunately most installations I've seen simply use one of the car receivers with a docking station. These are about 1/3 to half the cost of the XM-100 however the XM-100 is well worth the extra money.

-Hal

Yeah, we are just goign to use a standalone reciever for this application. It is what we use as music-on-hold and does a good job.

I am still digging around getting all my info together on the bogen units and what all we will need to install, wire, etc.

Thanks for all the info. The TPU is definitely they way we are going! Once again you guys are amazing!

Rage, Famous Telephone is a good source for most of this stuff and has good prices.

-Hal

hbiss,

Thanks, but kinda leary of Famous right now (i'll spare the details, hopefully its pains from the CSC buyout). I'll keep looking around, I know at least one of our suppliers carries bogen and will probably use them.

Bogen make some great speakers EZ1, Connectors just push through ceiling tiles, no cutting and built in back baffel. Sound radiates out 360 degrees.
Snap to install and music sound great.