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I saw a pneumatic punch on tool for 66 blocks many (30+) years ago, but it only did one pair at a time. It used a foot pedal We used it till it shot the blade out of the tool and imbedded it in the wall across the room. At that point we stopped using it - except when the boss (who had bought it to increase productivity) came by.
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Silversam, you weren't perchance 'playing around' on the job when you 'accidentally' triggered the thing when it wasn't on a block? Sounds like why nail shooters wont fire unless they are depressed against the receiving object, unless of course,someone is 'playing around'. What's that old saying,"Idle Hands Are The Devils Workshop".  John C.
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30+ years ago tools like that didn't have the safety features that are required today. Very possible that it would fire without being pressed to the block.
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agreed hal, one place i used to work with had a guillotine in the print shop for cutting stacks of paper, the new ones have 2 handles about 3 feet apart and 2 feet from the blade that have to be held with both hands for the blade to drop, the one in our old print shop only required one hand to operate, was VERY scary to see
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I used a high velocity stud gun that used 45 blanks that would stick a stud into concrete from 6 feet back.(no safety) After about a 5-6 studs you needed a break for your arm to recover As for the punch tool never seen one for multi pairs but I have a electric punch that makes it easier
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Here\'s an example of a 5-pair pd tool for a 110 block. I can't imagine how one would look or even work with the way that 66-blocks are designed. I really need to join one of those clubs where they send you these different style tools for free, and all you provide back is your honest and professional opinion on them. 
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I have a 5-pair / 110 punch down tool, have had it for over 10 years now, forgot what brand it is. Works real good, also very good to seat the 110 clips onto the block, but i would "NEVER" use them on a patch panel as it shows in the add on your site.
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The punch tool is an 857 or 587 or something like that. Do you guys remember the old Hilti (DX-300 maybe?). It was kinda like the Remington hand punch in that you had a 2 1/2 or 5 pound hammer and a barrel with a knob on the end. You opened up the barrel and put your charge in it, the stud on the bottom, and pressed it to the floor (or not) and struck the top with a hammer. Even if you accidently had it on a angle, it was pretty dangerous.
Go figure why it was one of the first tools that I can remember that was recalled :-)
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Originally posted by Carl Navarro: and could the Bridge Clip tool work like a staple gun? Is it wrong that I can picture how this could be implemented?  String the clips together like nails for a nail gun on plastic... I don't know that it's economically practical to make and market, but I think it could be done. Guess I'll just keep using my fingers (or Leatherman) for now. 
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Guys -
No, we weren't fooling around with the punch tool. I mean, when the guy hit the foot pedal he didn't have it seated on the block (I think he was doing it because the tool was jamming) but it just shot the blade right across the room.
As far as Hilti's go - I had one when I had my contracting business back in '74-'75. The last time we used it was when my guys went to hang a Cook 303 box on the wall in a factory in NJ. They took the template out of the box, taped it to the wall and levelled it. Then they went to shoot those shots that left a 3/8" stud projecting out into the (what they thought was a) concrete block wall. Well in NYC it would have been filled concrete block. In Lodi, NJ it was hollow Cinder Block. The shot blew a piece of the wall about the size of your fist right out of the wall and into the outside yard. Lucky no one was out there when it happened. That's the last time I ever used one.
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