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A near-fatal combination, to say the least.
Here goes.
New CIX100, new LIPU card.
As you know, in emanager one has to set the IP of the LIPU, subnet mask, and default gateway. And as I have been told over and over, it won't work through NAT. So I have a static IP, and I program that into the LIPU, but the default gateway we use on our network is a private ip 192.168.1.254. And the WAN ip of the router is NOT static, changes each logon (connection set to always on, but if it's down, etc).
If I set the default gateway (in the ipu) to .254, get an error that it's not in the same subnet. If I set it to be the WAN IP of the router, I get no errors, but I can't connect and can't ping.
If I set IP maps from the public static IP to the private static IP of the LIPU in the netopia, I can ping, and connect, and view line status, even make outgoing CO calls, but no voice path.
So how do I set the darned thing to use my static private IP and work?
As I said before, it's on Bellsouth DSL. Any other information needed please let me know.

The LIPU HAS to be OUTSIDE the router and firewall. You have to have a public IP from the DSL straight into the LIPU. Get the IP, SN Mask and gateway from your DSL provider.

I use a Linksys 4 port 10/100 switch (not hub!) with port one coming from the DSL Circuit, Port 2 going to my router for internet and port 3 going to my LIPU card.

Typically, on a DSL circuit, your IP is set dynamically. You will have to get them to change it to Static and will more than likely have to pay for a block of 5 Static IP's.

Good Luck. If you have any more question, don't hesitate to ask.

Dan

Thanks Dan,
I have a public IP we paid for (yeah, block of 5 or 6), problem is our router is also the DSL modem, so it's all one device. You're saying I need to ditch the all in one (or just use it for routing) and get a seperate dsl "modem" only, then run the ethernet out of that into a switch, and from the switch into the current router and also to the LIPU?

I think yiou can use the existing router. Thats just a switch with an attitude! Call me.....PM sent.

Allright. STILL working on this.
Tried everything to get the above netopia to work. No dice. I now have a new DSL modem, no NAT, no DNS, no Firewall, just pppoe and routing. Plugged the modem into dsl ckt, and the LIPU into the modem's ethernet port (to take out all other variables). Nada.
We have a block of 6 IPs.
LIPU is set to IP xxx.xxx.115.245
I tried it with the modem's IP being 192.168.1.1, which didn't work, cause of the subnet mask on the LIPU? So then I tried setting the ethernet port of the modem to be xxx.xxx.115.246, the LIPU to use that as the default gateway, and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. No go. As suggested here and by ISP tech, I tried setting the LIPU (same IP, .245) to use the ISPs next hop router, xxx.xxx.98.1, and with a subnet mask on the LIPU of 255.255.0.0. Still no go.
Is the problem with the subnet mask, and I need to get that from ISP, if using THEIR upline router as LIPUs default gateway? What I don't understand is how the internet (ie remote IPT) would know how to get to the LIPU, since the ISP routes our static IP's to us based on PPPoE logon, and this would be outside that setup. Any help would be most appreciated, and I would gladly buy someone a drink or 20

Well, just from scanning the message, the first problem is PPPOE, since the LIPU can not login. So your Internet connection may not be up until you login.

I have only seen PPPOE on Dynamic IP. I don't see why you would have to log in if you were assigned a block of IPs.

I'll see what's up with the pppoe, if we can do anything to change that, one question I have though to above "You have to have a public IP from the DSL straight into the LIPU"...I have to have something coming from the DSL between it and the ethernet of the LIPU, what though? Modem in bridge mode?

You do need a Public IP. I have seen Netopia work as just a DSL Modem, where the PC (IP or other devices) have a public IP and connect Thru the Modem. The modem just makes the connect, like a network card, etc, but doesn't "route" IP traffic.

I have also seen a Netopia function as a router, where it has the only public IP (on the WAN side) and everything connected has a Private IP , assigned by DHCP in the Netorpia router.

One customer changed his setup from Static, to Dynamic with a Netopia. If I remember, the Netopia gave Public IP's to each PC when they had a Static setup, then gave out Private 192.168.1.xxx when they changed to Dynamic. Not sure if the ISP made the change to the modem. Pretty sure PPPOE was not invoved because I connect without a password.

I don't install a lot of different internet connections. I occationally have to deal with a customer setup when setting up an IP phone. Things are always changing. Hard to keep up.

Like I said, typically I would see PPPOE on a dynamic setup, where the IP is assign after your PC logs in, while Static is entered by the end user based on what was sent by their ISP. So many different setups, I would think maybe your ISP may needs to be called.

Also, the info for LIPU re: IP, Subnet, and GW should be provided by your ISP when they send you your IP info about your DSL.

And If I read more carefully I would have seen that you are not using the Netopia anymore.

You may also want to try to enter the IP info provided by your ISP into a PC and see if you can get an Internet connection. Then you will know if the everything is right. Not sure how you can get past the PPOE thing.

If you have a Netopia DSL modem, doesnt it come with 4 ethernet ports? If you also have 5 or 6 IP addresses assigned for your circuit you can put any of those as static in your IP card and it will work.