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In re-re-reading this thread, I see that Paul Coxwell actually beat me to the punch on the details surrounding the *69 feature. Good job, man. And I see that you're from Norfolk! Reminds me of the old joke about Norfolk and Goode (from your buddies over in Blackburn, Lancashire).
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Let's get this straight. The star codes are bouncing all over the place:
*67= Blocks your number from being displayed on the recipient's caller ID display as an incoming call. This code is dialed prior to dialing the telephone number.
*69= Redials the last caller (not number) that called you. It also has nothing to do with your number being displayed anywhere;
*57= Reports nuisance/annoying/threatening calls to the central office personnel. A police report is usually required for this information to be turned over to them for investigation. In some places, there is a charge for this service.
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I hate to disagree with you Ed, but *69 uses the captured CID and not the ANI to return the call.
If you have access to a PRI, you can prove this to yourself by modifying the digits sent. There are other experiments you can try as well, but the end results are the same: *69 relies solely on the advertised phone number when attempting to return the call. Odd, isn't it? I would have thought that whenever CID was blocked (or whenever there is a mismatch between ANI and CID) that the ANI identifiers would be used instead.
Knowing that, it comes as no surprise that the Call Block feature is similarly affected. Subscribers of the Call Block service are unable to add callers to their reject list if CID is unavailable. I guess that's where Anonymous Call Block fits in as a countermeasure.
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My bad, Tim. I just went back and reviewed my post and I meant to imply what you said. I had it backward. Sounds like three lashes are in order.
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First I am sorry for your pain. Bad things do happen to good people sometimes. They are not stupid and are aware that anonymous calls are not anonymous at all. Besides, police departments get problems like this all the time and handle it routinely. I had a crazy women (in every since of the word ) calling here at night (every night) around 8 to 10 times (every night). Long story short, our campus police are state police and we still had to go to the local district attorneys office to get a subpoena to get the calls records. Then they just matched up call logs from my CAS against the recorded calls. So like Hal said, they are not easily obtainable, even by the police. Lastly all the information the guys here are giving you is listed in the front of your phone book with a brief description of what each feature does and the feature access codes. Good luck to you and your's.
Mike Jones "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." - Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969), Inaugural Address, January 20, 1953
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Unless things have changed a good deal over the last 4 years, the information from the anonymous call trace (*57) cannot be hidden by the use of Calling Number Block, Privacy, or similar features. If the call placed to the tracing number originates in the same C.O. switch as the tracing number, the trace will provide the actual calling number. If the call comes from another switch, the trace will provide the trunk group and member of the incoming call. SS7 Signaling may have further enhanced this capability. The key part and the sometimes difficult part is getting the anonymous call group to take a complaint seriously and to put up traces in the C.O. switches where the harassing calls may be coming from. Again, the information will only be released to a law enforcement agency.
The trace normally does not appear on the printer in a C.O. That particular class of message is usually provisioned to print and log to a center that handles anonymous call complaints. If the trace(s) are made it is usually not a major problem to locate all of the traces. You simply set a pattern to search for the desired information.
Again, something may have changed in the last 4 years but I don’t believe that the telephone company has a record of all the calls made. There would be a record of any billable calls such as long distance and message rate calls. I don’t believe that calls that are not billed, such as local calls, are logged. There are records of calls being traced for maintenance reasons and there are records of calls being traced by the anonymous call group.
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