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#227356 03/04/05 07:51 PM
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Don't let my name fool you! I'm the new kid on the block and I have some basic questions re our selection of a new phone system. I've been strongly considering the DS-2000 system as it appears to be feature rich and seemingly within my "limited" ability to install myself. My questions are: 1)Will the system manuals likely enable a layperson to successfully complete installation? (I've previously moved/reinstalled our current keysystem) 2)Is this system stable and trustworthy in a typical office application, or is it considered temperamental & prone to have problems? 3) How long is NEC expected to sell/promote/support this system? 4)Is there another system (NEC or otherwise) that I should be considering? Thanks for any and all input.

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The DS2000 is a great system any very advanced for the price. Its digital,easy to install, only requires 1 pair for each station and the Intramail if you decide to use it simply plugs into the processor and is truly plug and play. The system is dependable and very expandable. The only thing you would have to do to install the equipment is to make sure you can put on some modular connectors for the wiring to the station block or buy some ready made cables. The system cards DSTU, ASTU and ATRU, all have RJ45 connectors.

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I 2nd the motion..........excellent system...

#227359 03/05/05 03:11 PM
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Thanks guys! You're confirming my initial thoughts. I genuinely appreciate your input.

Any comments re NEC's long-term commitment to this system?

Also, it appears the VM now provided with the DS2000 is referred to as "Intramail" (NEC#80044 or 88) which has apparently replaced something called NVM or NVM2e? Am I correct in my understanding? I found the on-line info a bit confusing... it's either out of date or intentionally misleading. If I'm correct, which of these two (80044 or 88) do you recommend? Finally, where will I likely find the best price? Our local Graybar offers the 80099 package w/VM for about $x,xxx (+tx)... should I keep looking? Thanks for your time, patience and advice. Dan (aka answersman)

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PLEASE DONT QUOTE PRICES....................

The NVM was the older Flash Based Voicebrick style.

It is still used on some installations, but the Intramail & Ultramail are the bread & butters...

PLEASE HAVE THE MOD. ERASE THE PRICES.....

#227361 03/05/05 03:39 PM
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What is wrong with him quoting prices from Graybar? The DS2000 is an over the counter system without needind to be a dealor...and in fact dealors cannot purchase these systems exept THOUGH Graybar or other retailer. This would be akin to quoting jack inserts.

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Sorry guys!!! Certainly didn't mean to upset anyone, nor spill the beans. I simply figured you were already aware of this info and may have some other suggestions as to where I should look. This bullentinboard is certainly your domain and you've obviously invested a great deal of time and effort... I'm just looking for some direction in your area of expertise. I really do appreciate your guidance thus far, as well as anything else you may care to share. Thanks, Dan

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I would go with the Intramail verses Ultramail. Intramail comes in either 4 port 4 hour record or 8 port 8 hour record time. The Intramail is a PC card and plugs into the processor board and does not use any station ports. The Ultramail plugs into a slot in the DS2000 cabinet and does take station ports, making less ports useable for actual telephones. As Groundstart suggested I would stay away from the NVM mail.

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Actually I recently found out that GRAYBAR is selling fone systems to whoever walks in the door....

My NEC area rep told me that if they find out that an enduser purchases a DS system from GRAYBAR, their rights to sell the system will be yanked........

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How is that? I thought anyone could buy the DS2000 over the counter there. I mean they also sell Panasonic and whatnot as well.

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