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I have been around the "normal" network cabling world and POTS stuff, but this is my first T1 job. I am going to bring up T1 service from the Demarc to a Cisco router. I am worried that the LEC hasn't put in RF45 jacks at the Demarc for me to plug into(then run a cable to the router) All that being said, if I have to install my own jack which lines will go under which screw terminal at the demarc? I know there are four wires, but what pairs are going to what terminal. Hope I havent confused anyone too much.

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The telco demarc is typically a smartjack. You just plug a patch cable in from there to your router.


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Thats what I am hoping for...But if not? I would have to wire up some sort of a jack I think

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The "smart jack" may be located on a small cabinet that houses cards in it. Most of the cabinets used by SBC and Verizon in my area will have 2 RJ45 ports underneath the cards on them. If there is only one card you will plug into the first RJ45 port usually labelled "1" or "a".From there you will plug a patch cable TO the WIC card on the cisco router.If you are too far to run a patch cable you will need to install a cat5 line from point to point. I usually then wire both RJ45 jacks as 568b and connect patch cables at either end.

You will get a green CD light on the WIC card that is in the router if everything is working correctly.

There is usually a small card in a pocket on these cabinets that will have your circuit ID on it.Verify your circuit I.D. as a matter of habit. I have seen guys banhg their heads againt the wall to find out they have been messing with the wrong circuit.


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It's possible...T1 comes in normally on an RJ48C or RJ48X. RJ48X has shorting bars for when the cable is removed.
This uses pins 1, 2, 4, and 5.
1 and 2 are a pair, 4 and 5 are a pair.
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In Rockford and surrounding area this is about the only way you'll see them now. The majority of T1s I deal with now are for subcontract work for national companies. The last three dozen (or more)T1s I have worked with have been installed in this matter.

The same thing at the last 12 Edward Jones locations I installed Cisco routers for.

I can't even remember the last time I connected directly to a "smart jack" for a T1.


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Around here I only see smartjacks.


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Originally posted by jeffmoss26:
Around here I only see smartjacks.
Wierd, I wonder why the switch in this area?
I was never in the DOG(changed names a few times) when I was at IBT/AMT/SBC/ATT so I can't say why they went from using the "smart jacks" to these. I should call one of my old co-workers and ask I guess.

I don't know a tremendous amount about the technical aspects of the T1 itself.Pretty much basics is all I needed to do my work with them. I did prep lines for circuit use and I have repaired the outside plant copper lines that carry them in.I've worked with guys on repeaters etc.Never really cared too much to be honest smile I have not actually installed one by myself. I do connect to them quite often in the course of the work I do now though.

I believe the ports in the cabinets are Rj48c. I'll take a picture of one and post it here so people know what I'm talking about.


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An RJ48X is a smart jack. I think we are confusing this with a network termination unit or network interface unit. This is a card in a shelf or single mounting that belongs to the telco. Yes, the output of this card is considered a "smart" jack, but it can be extended beyond this point to another "smart" jack. The key is maintaining loopback.

The term "smart jack" just implies that it automatically creates a loopback condition between transmit and receive when the equipment is unplugged. That's all; nothing else. There are no cards that constitute a smart jack. For all intensive purposes, some circuits come into RJ48S jacks directly from incoming cable pairs. There's no magic going on. The card/shelf is only there to condition cable pairs from long loop lengths.


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Ed, when I meant smartjack, I mean the cabinet on the wall with the special key and the circuit card. That's what I was always told they were called smile


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