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I guess I am a whipper snapper. I didn't know that was where the A, B, C, and D used in VM integration came from. I did wonder, though. Now I can finally stop looking for the A key on my phone!

So are they still DTMF? Or MF?

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5years, dtmf, as junkman stated mf used over the network. Memory says had a KP and ST key. You'd know it if you heard it, very fast. You're only a whipper snapper cause I ain't. (been around awhile)
Bill

Just wanted to add for anyone who wanted to know it was as follows

123A
456B
789C
X0XD I put XX cause the first didn't have * and #
and did you know the first TT keypads were like and adding machine
789
456
123
0
didn't take.
OK aged myself enough
Bill

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Now you know 5years, why your a whippier snapper and I ain't, way too many brain farts and probably still ain't right. Hope the New Year bring Y'all peace and prosperity.
Bill

OK, I am NOT a "phoneman", so I don't qualify as an authority on what requires a "phoneman's" expertise. I'm a data guy. Not who contracts out, a captive one, working for a manufacturing company. We've got almost twice as many computers as phones, lol.

I can qualify as an expert on what we DIY'ers think that we can do. We can find out damn near anything on the internet. Copy/paste this: "primary secondary colors cable 25 pair" into google and see what you come up with. So it's not just that we can get any hardware we want, we can get the information we need, too.

Wheels, you are right. If you know the color code for a 25 pr cable, that's all you need to know to be a "phoneman". I know how to plug in my laptop, guess that makes me an "IT guy".

I come from the data side and have been working telcom now for 10+ years. Two totally different worlds. Computers are expected to fail phones are not. The sheer amount of leeway you get with the computer network going down as opposed to the phone system is night and day. And here is the real kicker....most companies spend 10x what they spend on communications equipment. I think this is why most IP systems don't work with a crap because the network topology is generally never properly laid out. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to hold an IT managers hand to show them how to properly set up a data network. Which is interesting because all the IT managers have to know anymore is XP...usually they have VERY limited knowledge on everything else.

Yep, I am ready to be a Network Administartor! I got my 3 computer network up and running at home! IBM here I camoe!

Wow!! "Network Administrator", does that mean you get more money AND a title?

Sorry guys, didn't mean to belittle anyone's skills. All I meant to point out is I guess what you already know about us DIY'ers.

I appreciate the people on this board, you guys have been a great help in me looking at the capabilities of different phone systems. Coral especially has been very forward and open in sharing his knowledge and helping me to make a good decision. So, really, thanks to all of you, especially those who are truly helpful.

I understand your opinion's about IT guys and, well, we're all different. I try to judge the phone guys I meet on an individual basis because, as far as I can tell, they're all different too.

Again, sorry for sticking my nose in.