|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29
Member
|
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29 |
Does any one know where I can get a copy of Hilton Hotels wiring standards for voice and data? I am bidding on wiring a hotel and the blue prints refer to the "voice and data wiring standards for Hilton Hotels".
|
|
|
Visit Atcom to get started with your new business VoIP phone system ASAP
Turn up is quick, painless, and can often be done same day.
Let us show you how to do VoIP right, resulting in crystal clear call quality and easy-to-use features that make everyone happy!
Proudly serving Canada from coast to coast.
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,172 Likes: 22
Admin
|
Admin
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,172 Likes: 22 |
There is a 800 teck number for Hilton to track troubles and fix telecom problems. I think I have it at work. They could probably guide you to the specs. I'll try an PM you tomorrow with it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,354 Likes: 4
Member
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,354 Likes: 4 |
That's a spec that should be part of the bid documents along with the prints. You certainly can't be expected to bid without a copy of the specs or you would be really stupid if you did. Wherever you got the prints from should have a copy. Sounds like an EC is not being straight with you.
-Hal
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14
Member
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14 |
PM me with your email address. I have the entire pdf.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,354 Likes: 4
Member
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,354 Likes: 4 |
No. The specs are supposed to be provided with the drawings. That is what you are basing your bid on. That way if there is any dispute you can hand them what was given to you. If they won't provide them pass on the job. If you want to be stupid and base your bid on something you obtained elsewhere I guess that's your call. Just don't be surprised if you lose your shirt when you find out they have been revised 2 months before this job and what you based your bid on is innacurate.
-Hal
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14
Member
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14 |
I've been down this path before. Believe me, you want to have the latest info directly from Hilton, as they will grant the final approval on the cabling since they will be providing guestroom HSIA and admin data and voice circuits. Most of the time the Hilton spec's exceed what the EC proposes since they try to get by as cheaply as possible with a design/build bid. They have websites for the franchise standards tailored to the specific brand of hotel as well as a general tech standards manual that encompasses all of their brands.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 378
Member
|
Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 378 |
Originally posted by Pointdexter: They have websites for the franchise standards tailored to the specific brand of hotel as well as a general tech standards manual that encompasses all of their brands. I'd like to see that. Can you provide a link? Thanks
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29
Member
|
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 29 |
Thanks for the Info. I called and got a login from them and got the info I needed. I told the GC that I needed the info from them and he did not know what I was talking about! He contacted the owner and they did not know they needed the standards. I asked the GC if he had even read the blue print notes and he had not even looked at the voice, data and video drawings and notes. He said he usually left that up to his electricians. This is apparantly the first time they have used a telecom contractor for the vdv wiring!!! They usually just use their electrician. I don't see how some of these GC's don't lose their proverbial pants on these jobs when they don't understand the importance of the telecom installation.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 684
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 684 |
Glad you were able to find the information you were looking for. It is unfortunate some would rather call you stupid, instead of helping.
|
|
|
Forums84
Topics94,513
Posts639,935
Members49,844
|
Most Online5,661 May 23rd, 2018
|
|
2 members (nortelvoip, scanjet),
102
guests, and
46
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
|