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Has anyone used this system yet and do you have pics of a clean install? We are using it for the first time an a job with 350 triple cat6 drops. Just wondering how anyone else did with this stuff.
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I had no idea what it was until I googled it. I have to say that it looks like something that will be obsolete in a few years.
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Yea, it is old skool tech, some jabrone sold the customer on it. I don't like is so far. We had to special order it. Comp geeks that have never been in the field or at least not lately.
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You are right it is kinda out there. Do me a favor and please clean up your language on the open forum.
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Back around 2000 I worked for the company that cabled Lucent/Avaya's building in Sydney. We installed the visipatch system there, only because it was their building & they wanted their latest & greatest installed.
The sell for it was that it cut down on NEXT & noise at the cross connect.
I have never seen it since to this day........
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So it's been around for nine years? You're right, nobodies ever heard of it and their information on it makes it seem like it's a brand new concept.
Typical geek stuff.
-Hal
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I remember also back around 2000 in Australia, siemon's came out with a sheilded 2 pair cable that was crimped on a special connector at either end, they claimed it would be the new cat7 standard at the time, some old timers i worked with said it was just IBM type II re-hashed, we installed it in a couple of Government departments (not like them to waste money). The crazy thing was that at the desk & at the switch you still had to convert it back to RJ45 so it could plug into the PC & Cisco switch.
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it was just IBM type II re-hashed
That is pretty much what the CAT7 standard is (is there a standard?). God help anybody who gets to install it.
-Hal
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the only place I have seen a customer need more that Cat6 is some defense installations that require Multi mode fiber to the desk, but in most cases this is their security paranoia rather than bandwidth requirements.
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Siemon's idea for CAT 7 (Still not defined) is accepted in Europe as Class F. It consists of a 4 pair cable. Each pair is shielded and there is an overall braid. The connector is a little box divided into quarters, with each pair going in a quadrant.
IBM Type II used 2 pair 22 gauge shielded cable and had a large connector that, to my memory, doesn't resemble the Siemon's unit.
But I wouldn't bet on my memory these days.
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