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Well, now it's a different story if the existing is as bad as you say it is. I thought this was a respectable place.  We installed cabling in many such and much better buildings for the cable companies. We would use a PVC corner raceway run around the ceiling/wall juncture in all the hallways on each floor. Then we would punch through the back of it and through the wall into the apartments or units where needed. From what you are saying I see no reason you couldn't do the same thing. Where did the "fireproof" requirement come from? Was it your idea or the owners? -Hal
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Late suggestion but just wanted to add that if the customer is afraid of tampering as in security to possibly recommend fiber optic cabling run but perhaps from the description of the building you mean a more mischievous security threat...
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I suspect it's mischief and vandalism. That's usually the case in places like that but then again we haven't been told what this cable is for.
-Hal
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I haven't had time to update, but here it is.The "fireproof" came from me. Customer wanted it tamper-proof- from angry tenants and saboteurs. This job was the first time I had to get an inspection and I got a little bit overcautious, I now believe.
Luckily, I ran into an old phone company workmate from the Pacific Telephone days at a reunion and it turned out he had a telco business here in San Francisco, and did jobs like this all the time. He advised me that 1. I do need a permit and that 2. plenum cables would be fine and standard PVC raceway is fine as well. Just as you say Hal, thanks.
I did my walkthrough with electrician today who will install sleeves and possibly a conduit in the busy ground floor and price out conduit from IDF closets to rooms on each floor. I will compare the pricing and almost for sure will go with the standard raceway afterward.
I appreciate the advice very much. Thanks all!
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do not forget to take labor into account, if the sparky will run conduit for you it will be much faster then if you need to lay in your own raceway.
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Just make sure there are pull strings and conduits are correctly ID'd!
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