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#474565 12/05/07 07:34 PM
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710 splicing, especially for smaller sized cables can be as time consuming as "B"s, Pica bonds, Scotchlocks, or twist and solder/sleeve.

Yes, "Bucket of Bolt" splice closures are common, so the garbage can is not too far off....around here we use truck mufflers... laugh

So, depending on the size, type, location, 710 can be fast or slow, neat or messy. But unless the user is trained (no different than any other system) it can be a job. If the enduser really wants to do this with 710, rent it from Ed. If you are going to do it on a regular basis, maybe it would be cost effective to own it. Otherwise, any of the other systems can be cheap or fast, clean or dirty, it just depends on the size of the job and what is being spliced.

Now that I have regurgitated the obvious, the floor is open for discussion. aok


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Truck mufflers, huh! Wonder why we never tried that.

Maybe it was just the model we had, but unless I was working in a bucket on a strand I found setting the MS/2 up to be a pain in the butt.

OK. Now it's set up, and maybe I was improperly trained, but you couldn't really do a butt splice neatly - everything had to be set up in-line.

I already spoke about the size of the splice cases- enormous! Because the splice was so big you couldn't leave too much slack and if you had an "active" splice that you kept going back into, you were in trouble.

If you had a wire crimped in the comb you either had to redo all 25 pair or cut the pair out and scotchlock it.

So what did the boss see in it? Beats the hell out of me.

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#474567 12/06/07 06:48 AM
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That's really the bottom line. If you just had a stright splice, in it once and gone they were fine. Anything else they became a mess in a hurry. I really hated them in buried terminals, scotchlocks all over the place.


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Everything stated at this point is highly accurate and definitely on topic... laugh :

I have seen these used in "butt" splices in pedestals...a mess is a polite way to say it.

Around here the local Bell cable techs carried a 25' cable stub with 1/2 of the "stick" on each end. They came in 25 and 50 pair setups. Supposed to speed things up....

Setting up on the strand was the original set up. A Mr. Copus (co-Puss) with United Telephone used the bar and slider from a Pic-a-bond tool to set it up in manholes (got a patent on it) and with "feet" to jam into the dirt in a ditch. His "adapter" cost almost as much as the tool. He then sold a ton of them to United Tel ... then retired laugh : I knew Don and that is another story for a cold long winter night.

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How did we manage to end up with two separate threads regarding 710 splicing in the same time frame? I'm seeing double, although that doesn't surprise me at this time of the night.


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Night? Sorry, Ed, it is morning here!

The orginal thread was about 710 or.....

Rather than hijack it and to give a forum for other methods and the opinions on the 710 technique, this thread was started.

Seeing double....another Coors Lite should cure that.... laugh :


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