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The company I work for has more UPSs than people. Constantly replacing batteries. Occasionally they stop working. I have two on the workbench right now. A SmartUPS 1000 and SmartUPS 1400 (rack mount).
Is it worth getting them fixed?
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Absolutely! I found a great place in Texas that consists mainly of former APC technicians who really know their stuff. I highly recommend them:
Power Protection Partners
6068 I-30 West
Royse City, TX 75189
(972) 635-2999
Contact is Cameron
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Royse City, TX ... close to Dallas, I'm familiar with it.
Thanks for the heads up Ed
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Ed, what kind of defects have you sent them that they've been able to repair?
That's been one frustration I've had with APC UPS's. They either end up cooking the batteries, or they report that batteries need replacement when the batteries are actually new. These are costly units to just throw away, simply because they are out of warranty!
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So far, I've just been getting parts from them. Their prices on battery packs is much better than from APC. They claim that they can fix them all the way down to the transformer itself which is a lot more than APC is willing to do.
By the way, the new contact there is Mike.
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Justin, I've had that problem as well when new. This 1st I sent back to my supplier. The very next one did the same thing, so I just left it "charging" for a couple of hours and has worked every since. Had several now do that; same solution.
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The battery/packs will not be fully charged and the APC 'assumes' that it has a bad cell. Same is typically true on a whole new APC UPS. But the instructions say charge for 8 hours for a reason.  Maybe I should mention that I got the job of rehabbing 600/650's that my last employer bought dirt cheap. 99 out of 100 just needed the dust blown out and the batterie(s) replaced. I'd run them thru 2 complete discharge/recharge cycles with a 500 watt load, disconnect the battery and stock them. John C.
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Originally posted by 5years&counting:
They either end up cooking the batteries I found out why. They have very powerful chargers--an APC SmartUPS 1400 has a charger capable of putting 10 amps into the battery, based on my measurements. When the battery is a small 7ah SLA it's easy to see why they don't last!
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Justin, the 'cooked' batteries are usually at end of life and have 1 bad cell. Net result is that the charger keeps trying to get the terminal voltage up to 13 Volts and it ain't happenin'. Batteries warp, swell, and even split wide open. John C.
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I think the fast charging rate of APC UPSs make a cell failure more likely. It's downright abusive to put 10 amps into a 7AH battery.
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