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I have a customer who has factories all over the world and wants me to look into getting him a system in a place called Tetla Mexico. He also needs a system in Koretro (sp?) Mexico and somewhere in Brazil. Does anyone know anything about trunking in Mexico such as ALaw and ULaw and what that means? Are T1's and PRI in Mexico relatively the same as in the US? Do they have the same kind of FCC regisration requirements in Mexico? Are there CLECs in Mexico? Lots to ask but I need a starting place.

Thanks
Mark

You may want to check with customer service at "TACO BELL" regarding some of your requirements.....

I just couldnt resist it......I had to do it.....

Mitch

:bow: (If you hadn't, I would have.)

Maark, check with your local consulate --- they have all kinds of info, including Mexico/American partnership enterprises that may assist you.

Hope it helps,

KLD

:bow: (If you hadn't, I would have.)

Mark, check with your local consulate --- they have all kinds of info, including Mexico/American partnership enterprises that may assist you.

Hope it helps,

KLD

Mark,

They do have CLEC's in Mexico, or at least the equivalent.

Telmex is the former government run monopoly. Pegaso is one of the CLEC's and also a cellular carrier.

I believe that T-1's and PRI's are the same throughout North & Central America.

Ulaw is the encoding used in North American & Japanese telephone systems. Alaw is used in Europe and the rest of the world.

Perhaps one of your Vertical/Comdial or Vodavi reps can point you to a good direction for more information. Surely they sell the same equipment south of the border.

BTW, Telmex has a USA website with a phone number. https://www.telmexusa.com/USA_ing/busserv.asp

-Larry

Larry: Vertical is in the loop on this. I've been researching the working conditions in Mexico for a while and it sounds like the biggest problem is that since the government has privatized most all industries there is a real mess on the unemployment side that is worse than we see on TV. Every web site I have looked at says absolutely do not go to Mexico with the intention of doing any kind of work without having the proper permits. I talked to a couple of companies that have done work in Mexico and they confirmed that, not only is it risky to work down there, there is a level of corruption that is a huge variable. Apparently you can be detained indefinately for little or no reason and the only thing that talks is money. I don't know if this is true or exagerated.

Mix that in with the potential differences in the telecom market in general and it makes me nervous. Vertical has dealers there but Comdial did not. That means at this point that we have to wait for the next phase of the Vertical story to see if we will be able to get a solution in place down there.

I hear ya, Mark! I wouldn't touch the project with a ten foot pole. My only experience with Mexico was a couple of trips to Tiawana.

I believe one of Tech Talk's members, Rustynails, has posted that he has done work in Mexico. Perhaps he could shed some light on the subject.

I have worked down there for the past 9 years. Start asking questions and i will be happy to address them. I currently drive across the border, once or twice a month now. There are a lot of interconnects that have popped up, so the competitions is pretty hard to compete with; price wise. Though I still have connections that do appreciate quality work. It still surprises me, even on a new install, how the local interconnects do things. (i.e. using screwdrivers to punch wires down on 66 and 110 blocks). I don’t blame them, its not the techs fault that the company won’t supply them with the right tools.

I have wired some major plants (Xerox, WeiserLock, BlackDecker) and installed mostly nortel ICS switches. They (telmex) are currently providing E1, with r2 signaling. Im waiting for them to upgrade there switches to etsi ISDN, which is equivalent to our PRI services, before I will push more services.

Got question I might be able to answer them.

The reason Nortel is easier to push is due to the NAFTA agreement. However, chinese products are still allowed, just taxed a bit higher, nearly 30-50%. (not sure were comdial is manufactured)

Just make sure if your dealing with digital trunks that the switch will handle R2 signalling or i can steer you into the right direction for an adapter ($2k)

Yes logistically its a pain, but by now i know the ins and outs.

BTW, your biggest competive switches are:

Low end - panasonic kxt

Nortel - option
Lucent - definity