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#5451 04/25/05 03:46 AM
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Fisher,

They do, it's called a media gateway and they are available in any number of port configurations, 2,4,8,16,24 they are available as either FXS or FXO ports or both so depending on your needs you can do whatever you want.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by codasco704:
Fisher--if YOU hang up, the system will know for sure. The issue is when the other person hangs up. If you place a call and then the caller hangs up, the system will not drop the call. Instead, the line will hang until you take the call off hold (and noybody will be on the other end. With voicemail, the system will not know to stop recording, so you will get very long periods of scilence in each message.</font>

Thank you. This is one of the best explanations I've heard. I think I finally understand the issue. So its mainly the problem when the OTHER party hangs up in situations when:

1. Inbound calls to a voicemail system.
2. Inbound/outbound calls placed in hold for extended period of time after the person hangs up.

So for a majority of outbound regular calls to actual people, it seem like it would be ok and actually the few problems it does have can be corrected by changing 1 little settings in the adaptor from 0 to .2

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Milestone:
Fisher,

They do, it's called a media gateway and they are available in any number of port configurations, 2,4,8,16,24 they are available as either FXS or FXO ports or both so depending on your needs you can do whatever you want.

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Is this something use to transfer call from an outside extension in a branch office?

I was thinking more of of a product that maybe a phone company could offer that you would pay like a flat fee of like $1,000 and they provide you a T1 using VOIP and provide you with unlimited inbound/outbound calls.

IF a data T1 has 1.54 Mbs of data and a good quality VOIP takes up 90K. Then 1 T1 could provide you with 17 trunks.

If this is the case, why spend all the money on IP expensive IP phones when you can convert your regular business phone system into a VOIP system at the source(trunk input)

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Fisher,

The headroom and required bandwidth depends on the codecs being used, If you chose to you could use the equivalent of all 24 channels,the gateway would be the handoff to your PBX, VoIP trunks are virtual lines so depending on your provider you could use one number and have it pointed to all the FXS ports and from there connect to your PBX.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Milestone:
Fisher,

The headroom and required bandwidth depends on the codecs being used, If you chose to you could use the equivalent of all 24 channels,the gateway would be the handoff to your PBX, VoIP trunks are virtual lines so depending on your provider you could use one number and have it pointed to all the FXS ports and from there connect to your PBX.

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If you had 24 trunks on a T1. That would only leave about 64 kpbs per line. That would be very low quality call won't it?

Are pretty much all VOIP products delivered in the form of analog trunks to a phone system.

I am not sure which system you use but in the Samsung line, if you use a TEPRI(T1 card) you can have the T1 go directly into your phone system and assign virtual (DID) numbers to transfer calls to different extensions instead of pointing the trunk.

This mean that you can have 1 T1 line and 100 different routing location as long as there are no more then 24 simetaneous calls.

I wonder if there is any such routing abilities with a VOIP product with either the ability to:

1. Be delivered in the form of a T1 with DID numbers which are virtual numbers to route the call to each extension.

2. Able to transfer a call to an extention based on the phone number(instead of permanately assigning a number to a trunk, and the trunk to the extension)

Thanks.

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gkar,

I got vonage to change the settings to ".2" on all 4 of my vonage lines. I am still having the same problem. When someone calls into my voicemail and then hangs up, I still see an indicator on my system and then it transfers the call to the operator and when the operator picks the phone up they here a fast busy signal.

If its after hours it will just fill up my voicemail boxes.

Any suggestions?

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NEC, you may want to review a thred located at https://www.sundance-communications.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000599

In that situation we were dealing with an Inter-Tel Axxess that was behind an Adtran router. Same type situation as Vonage lines in that the line comes in across broadband and then breaks out into analog ports. In the Adtran there was a setting that allowed us to add come capacitance across the line to change false readings. They were having a problem with the system knowing when it was off hook. It sounds like yours is having a problem knowing when it is on hook.

Please keep us posted. These issues are getting more and more common.

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MacGyver,

Sorry I forgot to mention my phone system is the NEC Aspire S.

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I was just thinking that regardless of the type system, it could be the settings on the router used by Vonage may be your issue. If it is not interpreting the on and off hook correctly it could perhaps cause your issue. That is what was happening with the Inter-Tel system.

Just a thought.

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I was just thinking that regardless of the type system, it could be the settings on the router used by Vonage may be your issue. If it is not interpreting the on and off hook correctly it could perhaps cause your issue. That is what was happening with the Inter-Tel system.

Just a thought.

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