sundance-communications.com/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services Cabling Telephones Systems Wiring Can more then one pair be terminated on Bix 1A ??

I have a client who has a existing up and running retail store and the company bought out the space of two other retail centers. The PM wants to extend two cat5 cables to the next building and then terminate it on a bix 1 a Demacaction Point. I know traditionally, I would use cross connect wire and then terminate for example one long wire for five phone from binder post 1 then 5 then then 9 and so on. The wire takes on the shape of a sinusoidal wave form. But what I would like to know is can a second pair set be terminated over a existing pair set on the binder post of Bix 1a?

You're either talking in circles or talking American English.

All kidding aside...

BIX 1A - 25 single pairs in groups of 5 groups
BIX 1A4 - Same as above but pairs on in groups of 4 pair wire
BIX 2A - 12 groups of 2 Pair connections (Like for older s-pr systems)
BIX 5A - 5 Groups of 5 connections for the same pair
BIX 7A - 3 groups o0f 7 connections for the same pair

There are others, but those are the usual ones.

The question is what are you using the 2 Cat 5 cables for?

If I understand your post, you want 8 individual pairs going to the next store, and in turn be able to X-connect several SLT's to the same pair.

If so, you can take the 1st pair and loop it across several connection points, then do the same with each pair. Remember your connections will be in the rear of the block once you're done. You may also need more than one block. Again depends on what you're doing.

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old post job was canceled for what ever reason. I figure, blue jumper pair can be looped from first pair to the start of the next pair, I think binder #5 for line one on a second bix1a for more phones that exceed the capacity of a bix1a.

nix the bix

66 is the fix

66 VS BIX. This should be good.

Cute & short poem Arthur.

Those who haven't worked with BIX, can't get their minds out of the 18th century.

No-one uses 66 blocks in Canada unless they're working on VERY OLD existing infrastructure, which is getting pretty much zip up here.

Someone will have to explain to me just what you can do with 66 blocks, that you can't do with BIX.....in a whole lot less space. When BIX is properly set up and properly labelled, it can look real "Purdy" and easy to work on...

I agree with Arthur & others that sometimes "the old way is best" on some subjects, but for others, "the new way" is better, faster & cleaner.

Comparing 66 blocks to BIX is like comparing 1A key to TDM, or even IP systems. Night and day.

When my former employer, Global Crossing [now part of Level(3)] built what ended up being the final OPS site in Boston, a Norstar key system was selected.

Whoever did the install used BIX.

The cross-connects were unruly and block labeling/color coding nonexistent.

True, that can be "blamed" on the installer(s), but it made for a huge headache trying to figure out what went where after the fact.

66 block wiring can also look like pile of spaghetti, but, the larger spacing between the pairs make working with wiring easier (to me anyways) than Krone, 110 or BIX.

But, as they say, YMMV.

Most of my install I not given a full 4X8 sheet of plywood to install my telephone gear on. Real estate is the big issue .
Bix takes way less space.

With 66 blocks, color coded backboards can be used to designate purpose and provide uniform spacing between rows and columns.

BIX may have something similar, and if it does, I wish it had been used at the office.

Dex, there are all kinds of pdf literature on how BIX should be installed. Check it out.....you may just like it