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Hello all,
Currently, when we need a system phone (such as Lucent 18D), I run a 4-wire connection from the Partner ACS station port.
This is not always practical because we have long (600ft +) runs snaking through trees, poles, conduits and groundhog burrows. Some remote buildings have only one intact pair.

I'm wondering if I really need the second pair all the way from the ACS to the station.

Do I understand correctly that the outside pair on any station port on the ACS module provides only good ol' 48V power, and no signal? If that is so, couldn't I just slap a 48V DC power supply at the station and wire it to the outside pair on the jack? The obvious answer "try it" is not possible because I am currently 300 miles from the premises.

Also, our ACS module is connected to a cross-connect block through a 25-pair cable with an Amphenol connector (going through a surge protector). This is for ease of installation/removal, as the unit must be removed and stored by non-technical staff during winter (no power or heat in the building during winter).

So I am limited to 25 pairs from the ACS module. Do I understand correctly that I could feed all my system phones from one single 48V source from the ACS module, or from an external source, instead of running two pairs from each station port?

Thanks for your advice or opinions.

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The center pair (positions 4 & 5) carries analog audio and ringing voltage. That is how SLTs can be used with Partner systems. Positions 3 & 6 carry power and digital signals between the processor and system phones. Without that 2nd pair, system phones won't be able to communicate with the processor.

The Partner ACS installation guide specifies a 1000' limit for system phones and 3000' limit for SLTs.

Would wireless phones (Engenius) be acceptable as an alternative to hard-wired system phones?


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Thanks!
Engenius phones work in most of our locations, but don't reach the remotest ones. We're looking into exterior antennas. Of course, the high price of Engenius phones is also a factor.

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The Partner ACS installation guide specifies a 1000' limit for system phones and 3000' limit for SLTs.

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...we have long (600ft +) runs snaking through trees, poles, conduits and groundhog burrows. Some remote buildings have only one intact pair.

If that's how you describe it there is no question where the problem is. Hack job.

Seems you are only talking about 600 feet, well within the range of even system phones. If you are having problems I suggest looking at your wiring. I would be using OSP cable properly installed with protectors at each end.

If you exceed 1000' you can always go to SLT extensions which in the case of a camp I can't see why you aren't using anyway.

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Consider replacing the Partner with an IP Office or other modern phone system that only needs a single pair of wires per station.

And you definitely need to put in line protectors for outside lines and make sure they are properly grounded at all building entrances.


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