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I'm sorry but Microsoft is scum who has lied, cheated and stolen to get where they are
Bunnie you hit it right on the nose.

Microsoft has changed the attitude of people, before MS days people wanted and expected quality merchandise. MS has shown that a company can produce an inferriour product and market it with flaws and then charge the customer the fix it. Because of this now customers no longer expect a new product to work well they except what the larger companies are pushing onto them. The quality of Cell phones and Voip calls would never have been excepted in the old days.
My feeling on software sharing is if the company that owns it no longer supports it then it must be public domain.

For what it is worth, we have been using TeraTerm Pro software for the past year or so. After having difficulty running ProComm on our XP laptops (and I really don't want to re-open that can of worms) and still having plenty of older systems in service, tech support suggested TeraTerm Pro.(https://www.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html)
It is free ware and well....mostly we just like it because it works and is priced so we can afford to use it.
And I won't get into the whole software / music debate - have family and friends in software programming and the music biz and don't need a good butt kicking (if there ever is such a thing) before Christmas.

BaKaatz:

Will TeraTerm run the same scripts as ProComm?

Bunnie what does Procomm Plus terminal emulation software have to do with filty gangster rap ? :confused:

MacGyver:
No idea about the scripts. Sorry for the lack of info. Its a small download and easy to use - and as with most things, we only use a small part of what could be used.

Procomm is not a Microsoft product. You guys are off when it comes to Microsoft. How we got on this subject, I don't know, but some things Bunnie and others said need to be clarified. Microsoft originally partnered with IBM to create DOS. IBM decided it wanted a GUI interface so it pursued OS2, while Microsoft pursued developing Windows. While not being perfect, they were the only two companies that pursued a GUI interface for PCs. IBM abandoned OS2 when it determined it could not make any money on it. Microsoft continued to pursue windows. It also acquired companies as well, a practice no different than many other companies, Adobe, Intel, Cisco, Apple, to name a few.

As far as lawsuits by the US and EU, who do you think brought those on? End Users? Hell no. Lawyers did. They knew they could get millions in legal fees regardless of the outcome. The EU forced MS to remove it's media player from Windows. It did. The only problem was none of the consumers wanted to buy XP without the built in Media Player. Say what you want, but without Windows, we would not have the computer usage we have today. Don't beleive me? Try running Linux for a week and see how it works for you. A majority of users could never make it work for them to the extent that windows does. It would have been funny to see what would have happened had Microsoft just said to the EU, "fine, we won't sell Windows in Europe anymore". How long do you think that would have went on.

Most software worth having is going to cost you money. You can't run a PC without paying for software. Kind of like having a car and paying for gas. Just having Windows, Office, Adobe, Quickbooks will run you in the hundreds if not more. I fail to see where it was ever written that in the computing world, everything should be free.

I do agree with Metelcom. If there is software no longer supported or maintained by a company, then it should be open.

Last, it is the general policy of this board not to condone illegal copying of software and such. Lots of telephone software used in programming is free. Some is not. If a user decides they will send a "copy" of a particular piece of software to another user, that is their discretion and resposibility, but is not an action endorsed by the board.

AMEN! You are "Z" man! I couldn't agree more on this one.

A little more of subject and about MS If it weren't for them establishing common equipment between mfgs we wouldn't see computers under 400 they may be big and bad but they do a lot of good for the world.

Instead of use this I liked what was on another thread it did serial program over IP
https://www.sundance-communications.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/22/t/000446.html

So, will anyone tell us what Procom is used for?

I've used the free Hyperterminal that comes with the evil empire software and I've had no problems with it. Is Procom supposed to do the same thing or is there any reason that Procom is better or worse?

We got started on this because of someone asking for a copy of Procom and at this point we still don't know if it is supported or not and if we should pay for it or not and if it will run on evil empire software or not. Anyone want to jazz up this topic with actual facts?

I compared downloading music with sharing phone software. As far as XXX lyrics goes about killing cops and beating women, anyone who promotes that with a filthy mouth deserves to have their toilet mouth attempt at entertainment bankrupted.

Let the kids grow up with role models of baseball players that don't use steroids instead of a cop killing wife beater. Seems simple to me unless you want kids to join a gang and get killed before they drop out of middle school. Kids should live, go to school, become a success, not a filthy mouth wife beater. Maybe I'm just old fashioned in thinking children should be successful and happy instead of being dead gang bangers. A filthy mouth day after day doesn't make you a desirable member of society.

Best way to look at Procomm is that it is an enhanced version of Hyperterminal. Gives you a lot of options. PC Anywhere, Procomm, and Hyperterminal and basically the same type of program. The issues with Procomm and PC Anywhere were that they were far more flexible than hyperterminal, but usually required their respective software to be loaded on both the host and remote machines. I haven't seen procomm used much anymore. PC Anywhere really enhanced itself in versions 7 and above. Symantec bought Procomm, probably just to get rid of competion for their PC Anywhere. Shortly after they aquired it, they stopped making it. You can get either of them off ebay for about $20 for the windows versions.