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Baggie method? I thought everything was wireless now?

I wondered what just happened 😯

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Thanks!

Is that from a Monty Python movie? I am showing my age.

We used the baggies because we could get more of the wire inside. Hated paint on the wiring.

We just used the bags the jacks came in, not need to buy something you already have. (We never bought in bulk).

I like your idea. ^^^^^^

-Hal

This was literally our 1st 9100 install with IP phones. If there is a next time I will space out
the IP ports.....

We always start with port 100 for IP phones. Doesn't interfere with the physical ports that way.

Thanks Dan. I already added the appropriate resource licenses.

Dave

Since your jacks snap in from the back of the plates, terminate your wires, then wrap them in the cheap, store brand baggies- the ones without zippers that they practically give away- to keep paint off your terminations, then go thru and plate everything after the painting is done. Quicker for you, quicker for the painters who now can just spray and get lost , as opposed to having to cut in everywhere.

Taping over the plates before painting is going to leave a tattle-tail ring of unpainted drywall around the plate. Might not fly with the GC.

If you have IP phones working on the ports you described they will not be affected when you slot the digital blade.

The only question is what the system is licensed for, basic CP10 was 48 ports

Avaya off-premises range extender would work

Thanks for letting us know!

That was the plan. We could terminate, plate and cover the plate with painters tape. This would allow us to start terminating prior to painting and give us a bigger window. We are looking at about 500 terminations. Thanks.

I would be concerned about splatter plus the fact that you now have to make another trip back to put on faceplates/labels.

Ended up being the digital card. All is good now.

Thank you for the response, we have battery backups on the NEC and the building has a generator.

Hi,

I have a 9100 CP10 that is expanding. Digital ports now are 1-16, IP ports are 17-23. My assumption is the IP phones will not function after installing the new 8 port
digital card as the system will assign ports 17-24 to the new card. What is the best way to handle this? Do I just re-assign the IP ports before installing the new card?
My guess is no need to enter programming at each IP phone itself. Doubt it matters but the IP phones are connected via a vpn now.

Dave

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/change-to-911-system-for-10-ohio-counties/ar-AA1xGhZI

So the timer starts...5 years to finish. Not bad. It took 5 -8 years to get the first ones up and the 5 year timer starts this year.

Carl

We brought in a couple of the Fanvil PN1 devices to try - so far so good on the bench. We have 100Mbps network and POE on the far end of a roll of jumper wire, VLAN tagging is passing through. Only surprise is just how large the power supply is (it can be at either end): 54V 1.5A

The only time we got permission from the AHJ for a elevator phone to be a SLT was when the telephone system worked off a backup generator. Health Care setting, so that part was easy.


2.27.1.1.4
Where the elevator rise is 18 m (60 ft) or more, a communications means within the building accessible to emergency personnel shall be provided and shall comply with the following requirements:

(a) The means shall enable emergency personnel within the building to establish communications to each car individually. The communications shall be established without any intentional delay and shall not require intervention by a person within the car. The means shall override voice communications to outside of the building.

(b) The communications, once established, shall be disconnected only when emergency personnel terminate the call or a timed termination occurs. A timed termination by the communications means in the elevator, with the ability to extend the call by emergency personnel, is permitted if voice notification is sent by the communications means to emergency personnel a minimum of 3 min after communication has been established. Upon notification, emergency personnel shall have the ability to extend the call; automatic disconnection shall be permitted if the means to extend are not enacted within 20 s of the voice notification.

(c) Once the communications have been established, a message shall be displayed on the same panel as the phone push button, that is activated by emergency personnel to indicate that help is on-site. The message shall be permitted to be extinguished where necessary to display a new message [see (e)] or when the communications are terminated.

(d) The two-way communication means shall provide on demand to authorized personnel, information that identifies the building location and elevator number and that assistance is required.

(e) After the call acknowledgement signals are sent [2.27.1.1.3(c)], the two-way voice communications shall be available between the car and authorized personnel.

(f) The two-way communications, once established, shall be disconnected only when authorized personnel outside the car terminate the call or a timed termination occurs. A timed termination by the two-way communication means in the elevator, with the ability to extend the call by authorized personnel, is permitted if voice notification is sent a minimum of 3 min after communication has been established. Upon notification, authorized personnel shall have the ability to extend the call; automatic disconnection shall be permitted if the means to extend are not enacted within 20 s of the voice notification.

(g) The two-way communication means shall not use a handset in the car.

(h) The two-way communications shall not be transmitted to an automated answering system. The call for help shall be answered by authorized personnel.

(i) Operating instructions shall be incorporated with or adjacent to the “PHONE” push button.

@Yoda

Again it won't work in a power outage (Without a UPS) which is when it is most needed!

Ok so just checked and if you must do this, the card you need is the GCD-4DIOPB. This is the off premises SLT board and provides -48V just like a standard Pots line. Take care though of the power requirements for the system as these reduce the number of SLTs available on the system.

If you need something for other than elevator phones, I've used a Viking TBB-1B with success.

Link to TBB-1B