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#143416 05/20/09 01:45 AM
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It's probably a crucial decision we need to make, so I seek your advice,,,
We currently have an ancient DR2 cabinet. We'll have NuVox hooked up in a couple of weeks, so I want to have a local company install a new cabinet before NuVox installs their equipment.

Starting out, we want 4 voice lines into the KSU, but later on, if business warrants, maybe add another voice line; I know we'll never need more than 8 lines. We currently have 14 stations; we like to add 2 more stations and 2 cordless phones (using ATA's). I don't think we'd ever need more than a total of 18 stations & 2 cordless phones. We will be adding Call Pilot 100. So how many ports have we used up with 18 stations, 2 cordless phones (using ATA's), and Call Pilot 100? Will a CICS 0x24 be the right cabinet?,,, or are we better off going with a MICS 0x32? I can't find cabinet dimensions, but one would think that with a name like Compact ICS, it'd be small,,, but the picture in the Nortel brochure makes it look bigger than the MICS. The CICS looks all "pieced" together, whereas the MICS looks like one nice flat cabinet on the wall. Which cabinet is the $1,000 question. Thanks!

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#143417 05/20/09 03:39 AM
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How many times in how many more ways are you going to ask this question? :shrug:

Put in the MICS already. :scratch:


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#143418 05/20/09 05:47 AM
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"The CICS looks all "pieced" together, whereas the MICS looks like one nice flat cabinet on the wall. Which cabinet is the $1,000 question. Thanks!"
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"How many times in how many more ways are you going to ask this question?

Put in the MICS already."
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Worrying about aesthetics in phone system cabinets is, oh let's see, how can I say this.....STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put in the MICS as Marv says and then, when your company REALLY takes off and you run out of ports, you can expand the system to HUGE. (Hence the acronym MICS. Modular Integrated Communications System) The CICS will ONLY go to 8 X 32. Well you can put in a T1 card, if you give up the '8'. The MICS can have 6 expansion modules. 16 Key or analog phones/expansion. 12 Trunks/expansion. (Ummm.... does the 7.0 allow more expansion modules or is it oldtimers/alzheimers?) frown John C.


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#143419 05/20/09 08:34 AM
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Actually the CICS is maxed out at 8x24, not 32.


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#143420 05/20/09 08:50 AM
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The CICS will ONLY go to 8 X 32. Well you can put in a T1 card, if you give up the '8'.
I thought that the CICS does not support T-1/PRI whereas the MICS did? I could be wrong as we usually deal with BCM now.

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Before I start: Whoever is selling this stuff to you should be answering these questions. Buy from a dealer, not online. These are basic questions any reputable dealer can answer.
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Originally posted by Rudy6897:

So how many ports have we used up with 18 stations, 2 cordless phones (using ATA's), and Call Pilot 100?
18 for telephones, 2 for ATA's, 2 for the CallPilot (4 port callpilot takes 2 ports)= 22 digital ports used.

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Will a CICS 0x24 be the right cabinet?,,, or are we better off going with a MICS 0x32?
Neither, you need a trunk module. Neither of those you listed has one. However, generally the CICS comes 4x16, so something is wrong in whatever you are looking at. But it all depends on growth. If you are not going to grow larger than the max 8 lines and 22 telephones of the CICS then get that. If you are then get the MICS.
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I can't find cabinet dimensions, but one would think that with a name like Compact ICS, it'd be small,,, but the picture in the Nortel brochure makes it look bigger than the MICS. The CICS looks all "pieced" together, whereas the MICS looks like one nice flat cabinet on the wall.[/QB]
The cabinets are roughly the same size, I personally like the way the CICS looks. MICS is a little bigger and a bit heavier.

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CICS(expanded) + two trunk cards = 8X24.
MICS + two trunk cards = 8X32.
No trunk module needed, just trunk cards.
And yes go with the MICS.


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#143423 05/20/09 12:06 PM
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And the CICS does NOT support T1.
If you plan to go T1/PRI later, you better start with a MICS.


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#143424 05/20/09 04:11 PM
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And the CICS does NOT support T1.
If you plan to go T1/PRI later, you better start with a MICS.
Whats this card for? I have never seen one or used one.

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#143425 05/20/09 04:48 PM
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The description is a bit off. However the card is used for ISDN/BRI circuits.

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