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#442936 08/23/05 12:48 AM
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Well i have read much on it but have never seen in a application til a few days ago i was staying in a hotel and had seen Free High Speed Internet but when i got to my room and tried to connect wireless, Nothing so i call the front desk and the gentlemen says to come to the front desk, he hands me a box with a patch cord hanging out of it and tells me to plug into any electrical outlet and i will have it. This was the first time i had ever seen it, though i have read about it, but it seems to work quite nicely although i'm assuming that it is pretty costly. Are any of you guys or gals installing these?

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#442937 08/23/05 08:43 AM
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Not that particular one, but all he gave you was a access point, which prevents people from pirating their signal.

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So what did the patch cord plug into? The wired ethernet port on your laptop? Was this some type of box with an AC adapter, an antenna, and an ethernet jack?

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We sell about 10 of these units on every Hotel install. Some people do not have a wireless card in their notebook PC. It is easier and cheaper to set-up a Hotel/motel for wireless than to try and wire every room.
Most of the time they keep a book at the front desk to record who has the units. They also hold the amount on your cerdit card until you return the unit.

#442940 08/24/05 12:46 AM
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No this was this was the Ethernet over existings powers circuits. What you do is bring in your high speed connection put in a router and then there is a injector that you put in front of you Electrical Power connection and wallla you have internet at every power outlet. The BOX that they gave me from the front counter was a little black 4" by 4" box that had a power cord and a patch cable hanging off of it. When you plugged it into the wall it would aquire the signal and give you a link and then plug the patch cable in a set your connection setting to DHCP and boom Internet.

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we just finished installing this system in a hotel. what they told us is that some government workers are not allowed to use wifi that and that the wifi is prone to break down. that is why some hotels are going to this system

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Ethernet-over-Power is a technology that's been around awhile, like phone line ethernet. Wireless has overshadowed both but it should be one of the options in your bag of tricks.

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Interesting, I have seen other applications over the power lines but never data. Got me to thinking why the power companys have'nt jumped on providing broadband. It seems when done over the power grid, it causes too much radio interference. Pretty good info here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication

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Power companies are very interested in this technology. It's called BPL (Broadband over Power Line). There's been a flap with Ham Radio operators over it because of interference issues. In a recent editorial, David Sumner, K1ZZ, CEO of the ARRL has this to say in part:

" ...we are not big fans of providing broadband connectivity to consumers via the power lines. Conceptually, so-called Broadband over Power Line (BPL) technology is a step backward. Unless you intend it to radiate, putting radio frequency energy (for that's what a broadband signal is) on an unshielded, unbalanced conductor is a bad idea. Early cable television engineers weren't dummies. There were good reasons why they had to use coaxial cable in their systems, and the reasons are as valid today as they were then; the laws of physics haven't changed.

Having said that, it also must be said--as we've done many times before--that the ARRL is not opposed to BPL. We are opposed to BPL interference. If it were possible to send broadband signals down power lines without causing radio interference, we would have no objection to BPL."


It seems that new technologies are rolling out now that are less likely to cause interference.
You can read more at www.arrl.org

jsaxe, KC2HET


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