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That is what I would normally do...just use a standard faceplate. I know it hangs over the edge...


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Its a handybox mounted directly on the floor so a plastic faceplate is bound to get killed eventually.


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Yeah, I've seen it happen to boxes mounted on walls too. People like to break things.


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Assuming I can find the duplex inserts...

Standard Leviton (and other manufacturers) item. And they can be had with 6 ports, not limited to 4 as I said above.

I've had good luck with a 4-square box with a 1G reducing mudring on it...

You might not know but they do make covers for a 4-square (otherwise known as a 1900) box for surface mounting. They are called austin covers. Use that instead of a mud ring and wall plate. Then too 1900 boxes are available in different depths- I like to use a deep box. And there are extension rings that are basically a 1900 box without a back that you can stack to make the box deeper. Also, instead of a 1900 look at a 4-11/16 box.

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Hal, do you just mean a raised cover, or something else. Never heard of an austin cover.


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Yeah, sometimes called a raised cover. I guess you could ask for a single gang Decora 1900 cover for instance too. Different parts of the country use different slang. The supply house guy should know what you are talking about but don't even go there with the Home Depot guy.

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Most of the Home Depot electrical dept. guys down here on Long Island are laid-off electricians. They are helpful and knowledgeable.

On the other hand, even if you are a licensed electrician, a lot of the counter guys at supply places have an attitude. It comes from the union "I can't be fired for being surly" mentality, and (I suppose) the fact that they have to deal with non-professionals trying to DIY all day.


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Arthur, my supply house has roughly 6 counter guys.
One of them I won't even talk to. The rest are OK but I have one guy I do most of my business with. He takes good care of me.
I will say that going into a supply house that I don't normally buy from can be an interesting experience.
Anyway, back on topic smile


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It comes from the union "I can't be fired for being surly" mentality, and (I suppose) the fact that they have to deal with non-professionals trying to DIY all day.

My supply house has a big sign by the door that says "WHOLESALE TO THE TRADE ONLY". Still they do get a few DIYrs with big b**** who ignore it but it's usually worth the entertainment value.

I've been dealing with this place for probably 40 years and knew the owners fathers. Some of the guys that work there I went to HS with.

When I have to go to other supply houses I find that how you are treated depends on whether you know what you are talking about.

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A raised cover for a 1900 (4") or 5" (4 &11/16") box is called a "Mulberry Cover" here in the City. It comes in a variety of flavors. If you Google it look for Mulberry Raised Cover - It's what you're looking for.

I'm with Hal - deep boxes if needed. I've been on new construction jobs for office space and the architect spec'd nothing smaller then a 4&11/16" box.

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