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Hire a residential alarm installer to run the cable in the wall for you...its cheaper than fixing the booboos you are going to make if you try to do it yourself.
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I like to think we are just as good as they are. What they are good at is patching and matching the finish. Makes them look like magicians.
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Whats the exterior siding if its vinyl then you can remove it and go through the wall from outside. Again I agree with Hal that some jobs are best to walk away from. This is what I was talking about to go from above you can keep adding them together but make sure they lock good or you will lose them. ![[Linked Image from irwin.com]](https://www.irwin.com/uploads/products/large/quick-change-woodboring-bit-extensions-439.jpg)
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metalcom,
Do you have a url reference for that extension?
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Originally posted by hbiss: What if the owner is a picky bastard and does not want ANY holes other then the access hole where the jack plate is to be installed?
And sometimes because of the finish on the wall that's what you are faced with too. Only you know what's possible and sometimes you just have to walk away if an alternative (like another location) can't be agreed to.
-Hal We don't touch this kind of stuff ..... the average telecom tech has little to no experience running wires in a residential environment. We dabbled in it a few times years ago and it seemed like there was always some sort of problem or issue to deal with. I have come to the conclusion that if a job takes us outside of our comfort zone it often turns out poorly ..... and i have seen that most customers appreciate the honest answer that they are better off with someone else.
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Originally posted by surdel: metalcom,
Do you have a url reference for that extension? They are made by Irwin I get them at Aubuchon Hardware but most hardware stores carry them.
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I think I also saw them in Lowe's
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I've used extensions in the past which had set screws to keep everything together. I don't know where to buy them, but I would recommend looking for something like that. Otherwise there's a good chance you will lose something in the wall.
I'm definitely on the "don't do residential" side of the fence though. Residential cabling requires additional tools and skills that you don't need for commercial cabling. If you don't plan on doing a lot of residential, it's not worth doing any in my opinion.
Something tells me this picky client won't be happy no matter what you do. He won't be happy if you damage the wall, but he probably won't like the bill he gets after you spend 4 hours trying to pull the cable without cutting into the wall. And what if you spend lots of extra time trying to do it his way and then you still end up needing to patch the wall?
Use caution with this one.
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I don't recommend that you keep this person as a customer. BUT, pry back the baseboard. Take a coat hanger, cut a straight length, and chuck it in your drill. Cut the end to a 45-degree angle, and use it as a thin drill bit to drill into the basement or crawl space. Leave the hanger in there while you crawl under, find it, and measure over 2" and drill UP from the underneath. Drill two holes, and you can shine your light in one and look up through the other. If there are no obstructions, you can safely go back up, cut out the hole for the box, and send your wire UP from the crawl space. Remove the hanger, replace the base board, and be done.
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Clinton,
Read in Sundance that some one came across a picky owner. But personally, I have never done residential.
There was this house monitoring alarm company that was offering a percentage of the installs of there equipment.
Other then that, I have always enjoyed doing commercial work. Beldon trainers are coming to town for training and certification. I was told that getting citified would allow me to bid on some contracts.
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