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https://gigaom.com/2008/11/02/who-killed-the-voip-revolution/

-Hal

Pulver Marketing rand the last AstriCon. They took a conference that was about engineers and developers and people who made a living on a product (asterisk in this case) and turned it into nothing more then a marketing affair.

Why would Cisco and Siemens need to be at a conference for Asterisk?

They killed themselves. Just more proof that buzz words wont create a viable industry. The last of the dot-boom leftovers.

Would someone forward this to LaneComm on that other bb?

Consider it done.....and with extreme pleasure...

VoiP is not dead, mark my words. It's a viable technology and advances will continue to be made. This article is just a way to pump up Skype and its product and it allows another telecom "expert" to present a compelling argument against something he doesn't favor. "We're smarter than everyone else". Anyone can second guess someone after the risk has been taken and a plan doesn't work. So the VoiP companies tried to take on the big boys and got shot down. Someone will learn from their mistakes. The big boys are using VoiP, they just don't advertise it.
All you guys celebrating the death of VoiP should stop acting like scared, grumpy old men and understand that change is not a bad thing. VoiP works great, when done right. If you don't want to deal with it, then don't. But why continue wasting all this energy bad mouthing something because YOU don't like it?

I agree Kevin. The demise of VOIP is premature and exagerated. Promoting SKYPE is fine. However VOIP is going to continue to mature and grow.

As you state "when done right" it's an interesting and viable vehicle. Our company will continue to learn more & more about VOIP--but 90% of our business is still involved with copper wire/tip & ring/digital systems/analog devices etc. Our resident IT guy is still carrying a tool belt with all of the necessary items for "old" telephone work--but when needed, he's got his laptop to look at our VOIP installs too. He's not going to toss either one out the window. Not while I'm still around, anyway.

I agree that the posting is suspiciously lax in its praise of Skype. Not that it is not an interesting and useful product (I use it often), but in order to bring it to the level an average business telecom end-user is accustomed to, means lots of $$$ and time. The competitive advantage disappears, imo.
I think the same goes with VOIP. You have to be able to offer it in the mix, but it should be also understood that there's no free lunch - for any typical customer there's inherent drawbacks that may outweigh the advantages. The posting was on the money concerning the engineering fumbles and the overblown marketing promises.
The last attempt for an open standard (useless words...) telecom infrastructure was ISDN-to-the-desktop. Anybody remember that boondoggle? The detractors were right, ISDN in that context really stood for "It Still Does Nothing". Notice I said in that context, because ISDN certainly didn't die, it just mutated into something useful.

From an ILEC guy I left reading this article with a little different perspective than some of you may have… One of the things I took away from it, is VoIP’s attack on an ILEC’s “accesses lines” (dial-tone/POTS) is not proving to be as worthwhile then was hyped. So many end-user/customers are stepping away from “home phones” the demand isn’t there to cost effectively “reinvent the PSTN wheel.”

And a thought on the authors writing “style” or lack of …. Dude needs to put down the thesaurus, me thinks…. Begat? Really? He used “begat?” Outside of a theological discussion does ANYONE still use that word? LOL!!! :rolleyes:

To KLD and Moore Tel-

No worries here guy.

Our VoIP sales in 08 better than 862k and still 350K in the pipeline with requests every week for quotes.

Our TDM sales were only 1/2 of that.

We will see in a few years who was right.

VoIP works and VoIP pays, you guys just need some training in VoIP and staying ahead of the curve in business. As I said its your business to succeed or fail.

So get over it and stop starting controversy in the forum.

Go sell something.....

KLD and Mooretel Part 2

Did you guys actually read the article?

Is is specific to ILECs and PSTN replacement.

IP in the enterprise and SMB market space is killing TDM.

Get positive for the good of all of us!!!