sundance-communications.com/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services Security, Alarms and Paging B connectors for faster installs?

I'm a one-man-show and time is money.. both for me, and for clients. Climbing up and down ladders, etc. takes a great deal of time.

I've been thinking about sort of pre-manufacturing my contacts with EOLRs and pre-wiring panels... then using B-connectors to install by connecting it to the wiring that I've already run.

This way, I could do the time consuming stuff before I get there, and then just put it all in on site.

On the one hand, I hate to clutter up my panels and wire runs with the B connectors... but on the other hand, it would save a LOT of time.

Are there any reasons against dong this that I might be overlooking?

Thanks in advance!

Personally I prefer to wire everything on site so it stays nice and neat. As far as EOLR's, for devices like motions, glass, etc it always goes on the device. For my window and door contacts I like to run a quad, I short the red and green together at the contact and connect the contact tothe yellow and black. Then back at the panel I wire the red and black to the zone and install the eolr in series with the green and yellow and leave it in the bottom on the can. This allows me to keep all of my EOLR's in the can and still provide supervision on the zone. The way this works is the signal leaves the panel on the red wire and runs to the location of the contact and then back to the panel on the green. Once it gets back to the panel it pass's the eolr and continues back to the contact over the yellow contact and then back one more time to the return on the black. It works like a charm and no EOLR's in the field. (thanks twisted pair for the great advice)

RJ31X SLOW DOWN! Performing a job (any job) is not about speed! (Well, unless you drive race cars for a living )

One of the best rules I've always gone by when installing a security system or fire alarm is:
Would it be good enough for me and my family?

Would you want to sleep in a motel where the fire alarm company that installed the fire alarm system was in a hurry to make a buck or would you want to sleep in a motel where the fire alarm company performed the job correctly?

I'm a one-man-show and time is money.. both for me, and for clients.

If you are doing prep work for your client off-site and not charging them for it you are only cheating yourself.

-Hal

I'm not trying to do this so fast that I do things sub-standard. I'll take the time I need to do a quality job. I provide free routine service. So, I certainly don't want to end up doing free service calls... and I *do* want to provide a system they can depend on.

However, the reality is that folks find it hard to take time off work to stay at home, or to have me interrupt their business schedule while I do an install.

I'm just looking for ways to work more efficiently on the job site while also doing quality work.

What's the old adage? Work smart, not hard?

Im sorry if this came across as trying to take shortcuts. I'm certainly not. I'm just trying to improve my efficiency.

Not knowing about security systems, how many pair are you talking about? Might be able to have a plug in connector. It would be much better than a bunch of beans.

usually either one or two pair in either 18 or 22 AWG.

I've thought about red butt connectors, which would *look* neater.

However, with the B connectors, you don't need to strip the wire, Plus, I like the ability to use the gel filled beanies to prevent oxidation. (Plus they are always in stock at my distributor, so no special order needs.)

I can see prefabbing your contacts with eolr's. You can solder and heat shrink them off site and leave an extra whip to beanie to. I also see no problem with putting the can together off site, installing things like wireless receivers, relays and things of that nature.

Red butt connectors as in Scotch-Locs? I've never used them on stranded wire, until once a year ago. Telco guy handed me a few and I asked if they worked well on stranded wire and he said it worked for him. Last week I had to go out and replace one with a beenie. Guess it didn't work for me.

On a side note, I don't care for those Harris/Fluke telecom pliers,
https://www.flukenetworks.com/fnet/en-au/products/Need-L-Lock%20Pliers/Overview
as the back side won't crimp a beenie like the Jonard will. https://www.jonard.com/jonard-ecommerce/control/product/~category_id=NOSE_PLIERS/~pcategory=PLIERS/~product_id=11009